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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by pakowitz OMG whether we pick bush or leinert they are still gonna cost the same... they are gonna want 2nd pick money.... and most of that will be bonus.. roughly 20 mil up front... its not like ...

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Old 01-06-2006, 06:31 PM   #61
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OMG whether we pick bush or leinert they are still gonna cost the same... they are gonna want 2nd pick money.... and most of that will be bonus.. roughly 20 mil up front... its not like rookie contracts are that freakin high....
You do realize, and I am hoping you do, the argument I am making is against having two high paid guys at the SAME position, as opposed to two high paid guys at DIFFERENT positions. You do realize Leinart is not a RB right, and he is a position of need. Once you realize that, we can continue.
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:33 PM   #62
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wow brooks better than leinart did he just say that....................

DJLengai wat are u thinking????
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:43 PM   #63
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wow brooks better than leinart did he just say that....................

DJLengai wat are u thinking????
I don't think that's what he was saying AS. I think he was saying we need to get rid of Mr. Brooks if you're nasty!!!
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:26 PM   #64
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Look i'm not for trading up to get Bush or anything ridiculous like that. But there are times where I think you draft for best player available. If Bush is sitting there @ #2, that's best player available. Bush could serve as RB, WR, KR, and PR. He can improve our team in many more ways that Leinart can. Not only would we have a "Lightning" to our backfield now, we have someone to put at WR since Horn's falling off. Plus we have a dual threat at KR. That will make our overall team better right away, and i don't see how that can be disputed. There would be two big contracts at RB, true. San Diego has two big contracts at QB, especially since one of them was franchised last year. Bush would get a huge signing bonus so it wouldn't be a big cap problem.

I see a much better team like this

QB - Garrard, McPherson
RB - McAllister, Bush
WR - Horn, Stallworth, Henderson, Bush
KR - Lewis, Bush

than

QB - Leinart, McPherson
RB - McAllister, Stecker
WR - Horn, Stallworth, Henderson, Lewis
KR - Lewis, Stecker

It's about the bigger picture.
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:31 PM   #65
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well i actually think smith was better then stecker
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:33 PM   #66
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Oh yeah i forgot to state that i would be in favor of getting David Gerrard from Jax. He will be a starter somewhere in the league in the next year or so.
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:51 PM   #67
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I didn't say Leinhart can't do well, just not in New Orleans. It's not going to work. He's from a precision powerhouse winning team which the Saints are not. He'll fold under the pressure. Let him go to a team where he can perform. If we can trade Brooks for a quality, consistent QB that's fine with me, but I don't see Leinhart playing well in N.O.

We need linebackers, a DT, and a LT a lot more than a QB. The team isn't going anywhere next season so keep Brooks and build up the D then trade Brooks after next season. A Ray Lewis type MLB or a John Henderson type DT would help a lot more as far as the team as a whole than switching QBs. Trading down for extra picks is what we really need. Deuce, Stecker, and Thomas can run the ball well enough for us not to pick Bush.
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:56 PM   #68
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jesus christ people... do yall not understand the prospects of taking quite possibly the best running back ever........are yall just that blind?!?!?
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If Bush is sitting there @ #2, that's best player available. Bush could serve as RB, WR, KR, and PR. He can improve our team in many more ways that Leinart can.
We already have explosive WRs, and a good RB. So we need another for what reason? KR and PRs can be found anywhere. MAthis was a 4th round pick of Houston, and he is going to the pro bowl as a rookie. We can take Devin Hester in the 4th for that. Sorry, I don't see how that helps more than a franchise QB.

There would be two big contracts at RB, true. San Diego has two big contracts at QB, especially since one of them was franchised last year.
Yes it's true. It's also true San Diego has over 20 mil in cap space. We don't. IT also works cayse sue to that cap space, they paid Rivers a lot fo his bonus in his first year, so he was cheaper in the second. They also only took Rivers cause they thought Brees was a bust. Had Brees been playing at a pro bowl level, they would not have drafted another QB. That's foolish, just like taking Bush would be.

Bush would get a huge signing bonus so it wouldn't be a big cap problem
Signing bonuses are guaranteed, and count against the cap. How exactly would a huge one not be a cap problem?

It's about the bigger picture.
Sure is. We haven't had a franchise QB in 25 years or so, now we can get one, and not have to worry about that position for a long time. Or take Garrard, who has never been a full time starter, and hope it's good enough. Uh uh. Th eLeinart option looks WAY better to me.
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Old 01-06-2006, 08:11 PM   #70
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teams with good qbs dont always win the super bowls... ask any nfl "expert" and they will tell u the way to win the super bowl is run the football and play good defense....
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