why is it that.......

hagan714 · 01-08-2006, 10:48 PM

Too many ifs with both qbs. but VY is amazing. i just wonder how good he is under center and dropping back. i agree about the usc hype in the media. Hey mighty12 did you get a chance to watch Mike Hass WR, 6-1, 209 lbs, Oregon St. on the arm forces net. much. what do you think? I really like his guts over the middle and has great hands. I am thinking #3 reciever

pakowitz · 01-08-2006, 10:49 PM

i also believe that Leinerts stats are overconsidered when he is called a great qb.... the guy has loads of talent around him and i believe that it makes him look better then he actually is....

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 10:49 PM

My point is why take the chance that one day he may be better than lienart.

pakowitz · 01-08-2006, 10:50 PM

we already have a #3 reciever at the moment... his name is Devery Henderson.....

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 10:51 PM

By the way Peyton was considered one of the "greatest college QBs" I think he does ok in the leauge. What makes Peyton so good. Its nothing physical. its all mental he studies the game and can read defenses better than anyone. Lienart does the same thing.

pakowitz · 01-08-2006, 10:51 PM

My point is why take the chance that one day he may be better than lienart.

b/c its not like leinert grades out that much higher then VY at qb....but he has the chance to become a much better football player....

pakowitz · 01-08-2006, 10:52 PM

By the way Peyton was considered one of the "greatest college QBs" I think he does ok in the leauge. What makes Peyton so good. Its nothing physical. its all mental he studies the game and can read defenses better than anyone. Lienart does the same thing.

No he doesnt...prove to me where u know for a fact that he studies the game as much as peyton manning...
and manning studies football an insane amount of time each week...

mighty12 · 01-08-2006, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Too many ifs with both qbs. but VY is amazing. i just wonder how good he is under center and dropping back. i agree about the usc hype in the media. Hey mighty12 did you get a chance to watch Mike Hass WR, 6-1, 209 lbs, Oregon St. on the arm forces net. much. what do you think? I really like his guts over the middle and has great hands. I am thinking #3 reciever

No I didn't even see 1 OSU game, so I have no opinion on that, but if he goes over the middle fearlessly and is 6'1" I think it is something to look for. You usally don't see that in a mid-sized reciever only in like 5'9" to 5'11" guys compensating for the height. Do you have any of his accomplishments?

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 10:54 PM

there is also a chance with his akward mechanics and lesss than polished quarterback skills that he could fall even further when faced with complex NFL Defenses.

pakowitz · 01-08-2006, 10:55 PM

omg... i give up... its like talkin to a wall...

01-08-2006, 10:48 PM	#51
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... Too many ifs with both qbs. but VY is amazing. i just wonder how good he is under center and dropping back. i agree about the usc hype in the media. Hey mighty12 did you get a chance to watch Mike Hass WR, 6-1, 209 lbs, Oregon St. on the arm forces net. much. what do you think? I really like his guts over the middle and has great hands. I am thinking #3 reciever

01-08-2006, 10:49 PM	#52
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... i also believe that Leinerts stats are overconsidered when he is called a great qb.... the guy has loads of talent around him and i believe that it makes him look better then he actually is....

01-08-2006, 10:49 PM	#53
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... My point is why take the chance that one day he may be better than lienart.

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pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... we already have a #3 reciever at the moment... his name is Devery Henderson.....

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... By the way Peyton was considered one of the "greatest college QBs" I think he does ok in the leauge. What makes Peyton so good. Its nothing physical. its all mental he studies the game and can read defenses better than anyone. Lienart does the same thing.

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01-08-2006, 10:52 PM	#57
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... By the way Peyton was considered one of the "greatest college QBs" I think he does ok in the leauge. What makes Peyton so good. Its nothing physical. its all mental he studies the game and can read defenses better than anyone. Lienart does the same thing. No he doesnt...prove to me where u know for a fact that he studies the game as much as peyton manning... and manning studies football an insane amount of time each week...

01-08-2006, 10:53 PM	#58
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... Originally Posted by hagan714 Too many ifs with both qbs. but VY is amazing. i just wonder how good he is under center and dropping back. i agree about the usc hype in the media. Hey mighty12 did you get a chance to watch Mike Hass WR, 6-1, 209 lbs, Oregon St. on the arm forces net. much. what do you think? I really like his guts over the middle and has great hands. I am thinking #3 reciever No I didn't even see 1 OSU game, so I have no opinion on that, but if he goes over the middle fearlessly and is 6'1" I think it is something to look for. You usally don't see that in a mid-sized reciever only in like 5'9" to 5'11" guys compensating for the height. Do you have any of his accomplishments?

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... there is also a chance with his akward mechanics and lesss than polished quarterback skills that he could fall even further when faced with complex NFL Defenses.

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pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... omg... i give up... its like talkin to a wall...