why is it that.......

CheramieIII · 01-08-2006, 10:56 PM

We'll see what happens in April.

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 10:56 PM

No he doesnt...prove to me where u know for a fact that he studies the game as much as peyton manning...
and manning studies football an insane amount of time each week

Collin Cowherd to an interview wiht him where he simply hug out with the guy all day. He had one class. He spent most of the day with Steve Sarkisian going over the offense and opposing Defenses.

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 10:56 PM

jeez I need to go to sleep my sleeping is getting terrible.

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 10:57 PM

crap spelling

mighty12 · 01-08-2006, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by sarge06

By the way Peyton was considered one of the "greatest college QBs" I think he does ok in the leauge. What makes Peyton so good. Its nothing physical. its all mental he studies the game and can read defenses better than anyone. Lienart does the same thing.

Peyton Manning is a RARE QB. He has size, strength, and is not rattled in the pocket. He is highly intelligent in Defensive schemes. He played against SEC teams who at the time were FEARED defensive teams, and he picked them apart lke he was still in High School. I have rated VY over ML and WILL NEVER make the comparison of him and someone like Steve Young. You just gotta wait and see.

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 10:59 PM

omg... i give up... its like talkin to a wall...

So your basic theory is that there is no chance VY drops off in the pros?

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 11:00 PM

I have rated VY over ML and WILL NEVER make the comparison of him and someone like Steve Young. You just gotta wait and see.

make up your mind. its ok to compare him to whurffel but not peyton.?

sarge06 · 01-08-2006, 11:01 PM

on that note im out. good night all

BJSim · 01-08-2006, 11:04 PM

I see people talking bad about the OL and how a Lienart would be killed. Well, let's look at the total number of sacks given up per game: 1, 4, 3, 1, 4, 2, 4, 6, 3, 1, 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 4. For a total of: 41 or 2.5 per game. It that good? No. Is it David Carr ego crippling? No. Also remember that five of thos games were against the top three D's in the NFL and that's not so bad.

In fact Carolina (#3D) had only 2 sacks against us, in two games. Chicago (#2D) had a respectable 3, in one game. And Tampa Bay (#1D) had 6, in two games. Todd Bouman had only a 2.25 sack per game ratio, and he's not considered a mobile QB, Aaron Brooks had a 2.66 sack per game average, and he IS considered mobile.

The point here is that the OL isn't so bad that a non-mobile QB would be screwed. But that the two QBs that were there WERE BALL HOLDERS, not throwing it away when it needed to be. A good QB with good D reading abilities will get rid of it and I think Matt Lienart has a slight edge over Vince Young in that area. Guy's the extra year has to count for something.

CheramieIII · 01-08-2006, 11:04 PM

Have a good one Sarge it's been a long day but very entertaining.

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... No he doesnt...prove to me where u know for a fact that he studies the game as much as peyton manning... and manning studies football an insane amount of time each week Collin Cowherd to an interview wiht him where he simply hug out with the guy all day. He had one class. He spent most of the day with Steve Sarkisian going over the offense and opposing Defenses.

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... jeez I need to go to sleep my sleeping is getting terrible.

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... crap spelling

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mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... Originally Posted by sarge06 By the way Peyton was considered one of the "greatest college QBs" I think he does ok in the leauge. What makes Peyton so good. Its nothing physical. its all mental he studies the game and can read defenses better than anyone. Lienart does the same thing. Peyton Manning is a RARE QB. He has size, strength, and is not rattled in the pocket. He is highly intelligent in Defensive schemes. He played against SEC teams who at the time were FEARED defensive teams, and he picked them apart lke he was still in High School. I have rated VY over ML and WILL NEVER make the comparison of him and someone like Steve Young. You just gotta wait and see.

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... omg... i give up... its like talkin to a wall... So your basic theory is that there is no chance VY drops off in the pros?

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... I have rated VY over ML and WILL NEVER make the comparison of him and someone like Steve Young. You just gotta wait and see. make up your mind. its ok to compare him to whurffel but not peyton.?

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sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... on that note im out. good night all

01-08-2006, 11:04 PM	#69
BJSim 500+ posts Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 577	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... I see people talking bad about the OL and how a Lienart would be killed. Well, let's look at the total number of sacks given up per game: 1, 4, 3, 1, 4, 2, 4, 6, 3, 1, 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 4. For a total of: 41 or 2.5 per game. It that good? No. Is it David Carr ego crippling? No. Also remember that five of thos games were against the top three D's in the NFL and that's not so bad. In fact Carolina (#3D) had only 2 sacks against us, in two games. Chicago (#2D) had a respectable 3, in one game. And Tampa Bay (#1D) had 6, in two games. Todd Bouman had only a 2.25 sack per game ratio, and he's not considered a mobile QB, Aaron Brooks had a 2.66 sack per game average, and he IS considered mobile. The point here is that the OL isn't so bad that a non-mobile QB would be screwed. But that the two QBs that were there WERE BALL HOLDERS, not throwing it away when it needed to be. A good QB with good D reading abilities will get rid of it and I think Matt Lienart has a slight edge over Vince Young in that area. Guy's the extra year has to count for something.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Re: RE: why is it that....... Have a good one Sarge it's been a long day but very entertaining.