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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I really think we should take Hawk and then Jacobs at 34. All of the good LB's are going to be gone at that point in the draft....

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Old 01-08-2006, 11:29 PM   #11
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RE: Leinart

I really think we should take Hawk and then Jacobs at 34. All of the good LB's are going to be gone at that point in the draft.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:33 PM   #12
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RE: Leinart

So you really didn't answer any of the big questions. Who then QBs next year, and an O or D minded coach?

If you go with an O minded coach then ML is your pick. If you go D, then trade down and get a boatload of D players and pick-up a QB in FA. But who? I say take the chance on Brees.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:34 PM   #13
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RE: Leinart

Leinart's name doesn't do that, just like Eli's name didn't put more fans in the seats at Giant's stadium
It doesn't? A Heisman winner that won 34 straight games and led one of college football's greatest offenses to a national championship coming in to replace an awful Aaron Brooks isn't going to put more fans in the stands? What will? A LB who didn't win the Chuck Bednarik or Dick Butkus Awards? Right.....

I can't believe that almost everyone on the board has gone for yelling for defense the last three or four years to, "we need Leinart
I was one of those people who was calling for defense, but that was when our defense was awful. Now our offense is awful, and I'm calling for offense.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:39 PM   #14
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With another QB and that could be AMAC, another 1 or 2 OL and a good OC and head coach and it's not so bad.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:40 PM   #15
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RE: Leinart

He said Jacobs...that's Omar Jacobs, QB from Bowling Green @ pick #34. That way we have our rookie QB, albeit not as talented as Leinart, plus we have addressed a major need at LB.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:43 PM   #16
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Thank you GT, I think if we can pick up a vet to get us through next year and with AMAC and Jacobs the QB situation is not that bad at all. Defense
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:29 AM   #17
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Look, it's not that I don't know how important the defense is. It's that, if you look at all of the truly top teams in the NFL, the ones that are threats for the Super Bowl, they all have a QB who has command of the huddle and can make plays. With the exception of the Ravens, no team that I can think of has won the SB without having a commanding QB who makes plays. And that what we eventually want, right, is a Super Bowl. I know that I don't want more seasons of unfulfilled promise. I want the Saints to be World Champions (whooo, that kind of made me a little light-headed getting that out).

Our defense is currently alot closer to being good than our offense is. 14th really wasn't a bad rating considering that they got absolutely no help at all from the offense. Field position and offensive turnovers were a problem all season and I thought the defense still performed admirably under the circumstances.

And, I gotta tell ya, I don't understand the infatuation with Omar Jacobs. Cher, you're talking like he's THE man, and I'm just curious what has got you so sold on the guy. And, I don't think he'd be there at 34 if he's that good anyway. One more thing, we're going to have a real problem attracting decent FA's, so I don't have a whole lot of optimism for getting a veteran QB who can really make a difference.

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Old 01-09-2006, 10:56 AM   #18
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Thank you kevin, great post. THe infatuation is unbelievable. Cher has no basis for liking Jacobs, except for the fact that he would allow these miracle trade downs and Oakland trades to come through. But Jacobs was hurt this year, and when he did play, his numbers were way down this year. The kid is a good player, real athletic, but he's not ready for the NFL.

Thank you GT, I think if we can pick up a vet to get us through next year and with AMAC and Jacobs the QB situation is not that bad at all. Defense
You don't take three mediocre/bad QBs (Kerry Collins or Kitna or Volek, AMAC, and Jacobs) and say that the quarterback position is settled. It doesn't matter how many talented QBs you have, you have to have ONE really good quarterback. It's quality, not quantity (See the Colts).

Do we need help on defense? Sure. Our LBs are awful, and we could use another DT or CB. But does our offense need MORE help? YES!!!!!!!!!! That's why we need to go with a franchise quarterback. A guy who can lead this team like AB hasn't been able to do. And then, if we take Leinart at number two, we can still get a great LB at 34th. DOES ANYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT????
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Old 01-09-2006, 11:01 AM   #19
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Wow. Those last two posts were spot on. Good work fellas.
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Old 01-09-2006, 11:24 AM   #20
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Should we pass on Leinart at #2? Absolutely not.

If we do trade down though, should we consider Jacobs in the second? Definately.

If you've seen Jacobs play, then you would have to agree the guy is very good. When he's on the field, he makes everyone around him better. He has good size, very athletic, and an accurate arm. He's definately not on Leinart's level, as in top 10 pick, but what other quarterback in the draft is? So IF he's there in the second and we PASSED on Leinart, I would not be disappointed to see him in a Saints uniform.
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