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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I was curious so I sat down at looked at all of the Superbowl winning QB†ƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂžÃ‚¢s and what selection they were in the draft, so hereâ₠™s the truth: 1. Starr picked in the 17th round 2. Starr picked ...

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Old 01-15-2006, 07:08 PM   #1
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I will settle the argument!

I was curious so I sat down at looked at all of the Superbowl winning QB†ƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂžÃ‚¢s and what selection they were in the draft, so hereâ₠™s the truth:

1. Starr picked in the 17th round
2. Starr picked in the 17th round
3. Namath picked number 1 overall
4. Dawson picked 1st round 5th pick
5. Unitas picked in the 9th round
6. Staubach picked in the 10th round
7. Griese picked 1st round 4th pick
8. Griese picked 1st round 4th pick
9. Bradshaw picked number 1 overall
10. Bradshaw picked number 1 overall
11. Stabler picked in the 2nd round
12. Staubach picked in the 10th round
13. Bradshaw picked number 1 overall
14. Bradshaw picked number 1 overall
15. Plunkett picked number 1 overall
16. Montana picked in the 3rd round
17. Theismann picked in the 4th round
18. Plunkett picked number 1 overall
19. Montana picked in the 3rd round
20. McMahon picked 1st round 5th pick
21. Simms picked 1st round 7th overall
22. Williams picked 1st round 17th overall
23. Montana picked in the 3rd round
24. Montana picked in the 3rd round
25. Hostetler picked in the 3rd round
26. Rypien picked in the 6th round
27. Aikman picked number 1 overall
28. Aikman picked number 1 overall
29. Young picked 1st overall in the supplemental draft
30. Aikman picked number 1 overall
31. Favre picked in the 2nd round
32. Elway picked number 1 overall
33. Elway picked number 1 overall
34. Warner not even drafted
35. Dilfer picked 1st round 6th pick
36. Brady picked in the 6th round
37. Johnson picked in the 9th round
38. Brady picked in the 6th round
39. Brady picked in the 6th round

Only 12 Superbowls were won by QB's who were drafted #1 overall. I think this make the case very clearly that if a QB is not taken with the 1st or 2nd overall pick in the draft, that you team has a far better chance of winning the Superbowl and saving alot of money on their car insurance.

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Old 01-15-2006, 07:34 PM   #2
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RE: I will settle the argument!

Where all of you at? Can't mess with the info can ya?

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Old 01-15-2006, 07:48 PM   #6
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That argument makes no sense at all. There have only been 30 something QBs taken first (or however many years the draft has been in place). But, there have been hundreds of QBs that have been taken after the first round. Look at the percentage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! It's really not that hard. Cher, do some research and find all of the QBs that are drafted after the first round, then see how many of those win the Super Bowl. I guarantee you that QBs taken in the first round are more likely to succeed.

Ex. These #s are completely made up, because I don't know how to find this information:

30 years of the draft. Even if there was a QB taken #1 every year, there would be 30 #1 QBs. They have won 12 Super Bowls out of 39. 30 #1 picks winning 12 Super Bowls = 40% chance that a #1 pick will win the Super Bowl. Now, because I don't know how many QBs have actually been taken after the first round since the beginning of the draft, let's say that there has been 6 QBs taken each year after the first round. 6 (# of QBs taken each year) X 30 (# of years draft has been around) = 180. OK so out of 180 QBs drafted after the first round, 27 Super Bowls have been won by them. That's 15% chance that any other QB drafted after the first round will win the Super Bowl.

This example could make no sense, I'm not really sure. But when you look at it, first round picks have a higher success rate than ALL of the QBs taken after the first round. You can't just look at the Tom Bradys and the Trent Greens, you also have to look at the Matt Mauks, Rohan Daveys, and countless others. TRUST ME CHER, IF YOU WANT A BETTER CHANCE AT DRAFTING A WINNING QB, TAKE HIM IN THE FIRST ROUND. THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY USUALLY GET SELECTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DRAFT: THEY'RE BETTER.
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Old 01-15-2006, 07:59 PM   #7
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Ex. These #s are completely made up, because I don't know how to find this information:
Man I don't know what to say. If you go to History of the draft you can find every teams draft for the last 60 years.
do some research and find all of the QBs that are drafted after the first round, then see how many of those win the Super Bowl. I guarantee you that QBs taken in the first round are more likely to succeed.
I don't know what else to do. I give you the information and you still can't do the math.

Here ya go. Only 30 % of all Superbowls were won by QB's picked #1.

Can you also see that no QB that was drafted in the 1st round with pick #2 has won the superbowl?

Dude, you have issues, alot of issues.
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Old 01-15-2006, 08:05 PM   #8
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I guarantee you that QBs taken in the first round are more likely to succeed.
I am giving you the information and you still don't see it do you?

Only 19 or 48.7 % of QB's drafted in the 1st round have won the superbowl.
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Old 01-15-2006, 08:39 PM   #9
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If we draft a QB which I think we will I just hope we don't end up with a David Carr, which is possible I guess,
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Old 01-15-2006, 08:45 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII
I was curious so I sat down at looked at all of the Superbowl winning QB†ƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂžÃ‚¢s and what selection they were in the draft, so hereâ₠™s the truth:

1. Starr picked in the 17th round
2. Starr picked in the 17th round
3. Namath picked number 1 overall
4. Dawson picked 1st round 5th pick
5. Unitas picked in the 9th round
6. Staubach picked in the 10th round
7. Griese picked 1st round 4th pick
8. Griese picked 1st round 4th pick
9. Bradshaw picked number 1 overall
10. Bradshaw picked number 1 overall
11. Stabler picked in the 2nd round
12. Staubach picked in the 10th round
13. Bradshaw picked number 1 overall
14. Bradshaw picked number 1 overall
15. Plunkett picked number 1 overall
16. Montana picked in the 3rd round
17. Theismann picked in the 4th round
18. Plunkett picked number 1 overall
19. Montana picked in the 3rd round
20. McMahon picked 1st round 5th pick
21. Simms picked 1st round 7th overall
22. Williams picked 1st round 17th overall
23. Montana picked in the 3rd round
24. Montana picked in the 3rd round
25. Hostetler picked in the 3rd round
26. Rypien picked in the 6th round
27. Aikman picked number 1 overall
28. Aikman picked number 1 overall
29. Young picked 1st overall in the supplemental draft
30. Aikman picked number 1 overall
31. Favre picked in the 2nd round
32. Elway picked number 1 overall
33. Elway picked number 1 overall
34. Warner not even drafted
35. Dilfer picked 1st round 6th pick
36. Brady picked in the 6th round
37. Johnson picked in the 9th round
38. Brady picked in the 6th round
39. Brady picked in the 6th round

Only 12 Superbowls were won by QB's who were drafted #1 overall. I think this make the case very clearly that if a QB is not taken with the 1st or 2nd overall pick in the draft, that you team has a far better chance of winning the Superbowl and saving alot of money on their car insurance.

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..you forgot to mention that, out of those 12 Superbowl wins by 1st picks overall, 9 of them were won by 3 QB's...

Bradshaw 4
Aikman 3
Elway 2
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