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SAINTSFAN834 01-16-2006 04:35 PM

1280 says Payton offered the job.
 
SOS!

GoldenTomb 01-16-2006 04:36 PM

RE: 1280 says Payton offered the job.
 
Good news if this is true. I'll wait to hear it on ESPN before i get excited.

mjf150 01-16-2006 04:46 PM

RE: 1280 says Payton offered the job.
 
What credentials does he have, other than turning Quincy Carter and Drew Henson into steller Pro-Bowl QB's? Same old Saints. Doesn't matter which coach is the best, it's which coach is the cheapest.

GoldenTomb 01-16-2006 04:54 PM

RE: 1280 says Payton offered the job.
 
LOL some people will never be happy. Can't hire Martz because he used to coach the Rams. Can't hire Sherman because he drove GB into the ground. Can't hire Henderson because Jets' D sucks.

Payton has 9 years in the league and is highly regarded on his team and around the league. I don't think you should pay anything in the world to a Sherman or a Martz just because they've previously had coaching jobs. I'd rather take my chances on a younger guy with no health issues who is regarded as one of the most creative offensive minds in the game. My first pick would have been Kubiak, but he probably didnt want to come here after being shafted by us in '00.

What makes you think that Carter and Henson were pro-bowl talents in the first place? Can't make chicken salad out of chicken ^?%$.

spkb25 01-16-2006 04:58 PM

RE: 1280 says Payton offered the job.
 
actually sherm or hendy would be much much better. i was thinking the same thing on the cheapest thing. unreal. the only guy i really didn't want besides martz and that is who we take. ahhh should be a nice nother 6 years of losing

GoldenTomb 01-16-2006 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25
actually sherm or hendy would be much much better. i was thinking the same thing on the cheapest thing. unreal. the only guy i really didn't want besides martz and that is who we take. ahhh should be a nice nother 6 years of losing

Well other people will say that Sherman turned a great GB team into crap, and Henderson ran a Jets D into the ground.

Sooner or later you have to stop turning to the retreads and go with a younger coach who is hungry. What's the beef with Payton?? He would have been hired by the Raiders a couple of years ago if they hadn't shafted him and turned to Norv Turner. And you see how well that turned out.

SAINTSFAN834 01-16-2006 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenTomb
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25
actually sherm or hendy would be much much better. i was thinking the same thing on the cheapest thing. unreal. the only guy i really didn't want besides martz and that is who we take. ahhh should be a nice nother 6 years of losing

Well other people will say that Sherman turned a great GB team into crap, and Henderson ran a Jets D into the ground.

Sooner or later you have to stop turning to the retreads and go with a younger coach who is hungry. What's the beef with Payton?? He would have been hired by the Raiders a couple of years ago if they hadn't shafted him and turned to Norv Turner. And you see how well that turned out.

How in the world could you say Shernan turned GB into crap? he took an 8-8 team that Rhodes was destroying and went 9-7, 12-4, 12-4, 10-6, 10-6 and this year 4-12. Granted, this year sucked, but look at the injuries.

I was shocked that he was not given a pass on this year after his track record. Payton was stripped of play calling duties in NY and is "passing game coordinator" in Dallas. Other than riding Parcells' coat tails, I am not sure what he has done to deserve a HC position. Hopefully, he will be a diamond in the rough.

spkb25 01-16-2006 05:30 PM

RE: Re: RE: 1280 says Payton offered the job.
 
jesus saint that is all we can hope. man i don't like this and to be honest it really feels like benson just screwed us. i don't like the pick up and there were much more qualified guys. we will see if sherm or hendy end up some where and their team starts to take off. just feel like we were given the cheapest option again

spkb25 01-16-2006 05:37 PM

RE: Re: RE: 1280 says Payton offered the job.
 
did they not say that it would be a coach with head coaching experience. i thought anyway that was what they said.

GoldenTomb 01-16-2006 05:47 PM

RE: Re: RE: 1280 says Payton offered the job.
 
OK...well i well just put it like this.

I'm generally opposed to taking previous HCs that were fired from their previous jobs....retreads if u you will. Why??? Because they were FIRED!!! You can say what you want about how it was the injuries and what not, but I'm sure that's not the only reason he was fired. That's like saying the only reason Haz was fired was because they went 3-13 this year. There are issues that you don't know of.

The retread experiments generally don't work. What second time head coach that was fired in his previous job do you know of that does as well or better in his second job. Outside of Marty Schottenheimer, Bill Belichek and Tony Dungy, i would say NONE! Look at the teams left in the playoffs. 3 of those teams....Denver, Carolina, and Pittsburg, have head coaches that are in their first stints as head coaches. The forth, Seattle, has Holmgren, who wasn't fired from his job, and who has a Super Bowl to his credit. The good ones don't get fired. All of the head coaches in the league were new at some point, guys. Remember this too guys....Sherman and Martz both had Super Bowl caliber teams handed to them.


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