Linebackers can be busts also...

Winwin · 01-17-2006, 07:39 PM

I would take Young or trade down. Young has proven he could carry a team and win. You can use all the stats you want and they come up even for the most part or Young a slight favorite but winning you can't put a price tag on that.

Your math on LB's are way wrong dude. You actually going to have to pull raw numbers and not got by that... you have to take into acount if there you are going to say 95 LB draft this year and one is in the top 5... where are the rest? Next year you have to take into account there maybe another top 5 LB now you have 95 still playing but 2 are in the top 5.

CheramieIII · 01-17-2006, 07:40 PM

Ok Kramer, simmer down now!

Winwin · 01-17-2006, 07:43 PM

you are proving to be my wisest of students, young jedi euphoria. my opinion exactly if we stand at #2 take young or trade down past 6. the 6th spot is the jinx spot, busts have been taken there this past decade.

lb's and dt's are our first priority followed in close 3rd by ot. if any saints fan is looking to win now, then hate to say it but brooks is your best option.

CheramieIII · 01-17-2006, 07:58 PM

then hate to say it but brooks is your best option.

The why did you! You know AB has had ample opportunity to succeed and has become worse.

Hey I hear Culpepper maybe available and if Hasbeen does get the job in Detroit maybe we can convince someone to trade for him.

jergensl · 01-17-2006, 08:08 PM

nice post timay! don't let winwin and euph get to you. they are like little brothers...they speak a lot of gibberish, you still love them, but everyonce n awhile you have to show them whos boss. haha

back on topic:

i would love to see the saints draft leinart, but hawk is a close second in my book. a distant third would be ferguson. lbs have just the same opportunity to bust as a qb, but the qb postion has a lot more hype around it and overall has the biggest impact on a team. a team can survive with a lb playing like crap, but NO team will survive with a qb playing like crap.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-17-2006, 08:34 PM

You can find any position in later rounds, and any high pick can be a bust, that's true.
The question is, would you like to gamble on a single pick, or would you like to gamble with 2-3 picks?

Trading down a couple of spots can mean getting 1-2 more players, either as picks, current players on another team, or a combination thereof, while still getting one college prospect that is rated in the top 5 of all college prospects for a need position... you will also incur some savings since the bonues go down from position to position.

zachsaints52 · 01-17-2006, 08:46 PM

I like Hagsn pick, but I am a believer in making our O-line a focal point of our team, but I have talked not mentioning it pretty much. I like to see us trade down, just so there wouldn't be as much pressure on our #1 to succeed at first, because alotta hype could devistate a person. I don't care who we pick, as long as they help us out.

hagan714 · 01-17-2006, 09:01 PM

Thanks zach i though i would stir some sh#t with those but it was calm.

CheramieIII · 01-17-2006, 09:05 PM

Don't excite the elders Hagan, ssshhhhhhhhh!

zachsaints52 · 01-18-2006, 09:57 AM

It's a overall good idea. He could help RIGHT away,

01-17-2006, 07:39 PM	#11
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	RE: Linebackers can be busts also... I would take Young or trade down. Young has proven he could carry a team and win. You can use all the stats you want and they come up even for the most part or Young a slight favorite but winning you can't put a price tag on that. Your math on LB's are way wrong dude. You actually going to have to pull raw numbers and not got by that... you have to take into acount if there you are going to say 95 LB draft this year and one is in the top 5... where are the rest? Next year you have to take into account there maybe another top 5 LB now you have 95 still playing but 2 are in the top 5.
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01-17-2006, 07:40 PM	#12
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Linebackers can be busts also... Ok Kramer, simmer down now!

01-17-2006, 07:43 PM	#13
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	RE: Linebackers can be busts also... you are proving to be my wisest of students, young jedi euphoria. my opinion exactly if we stand at #2 take young or trade down past 6. the 6th spot is the jinx spot, busts have been taken there this past decade. lb's and dt's are our first priority followed in close 3rd by ot. if any saints fan is looking to win now, then hate to say it but brooks is your best option.
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01-17-2006, 07:58 PM	#14
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Linebackers can be busts also... then hate to say it but brooks is your best option. The why did you! You know AB has had ample opportunity to succeed and has become worse. Hey I hear Culpepper maybe available and if Hasbeen does get the job in Detroit maybe we can convince someone to trade for him.

01-17-2006, 08:08 PM	#15
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	RE: Linebackers can be busts also... nice post timay! don't let winwin and euph get to you. they are like little brothers...they speak a lot of gibberish, you still love them, but everyonce n awhile you have to show them whos boss. haha back on topic: i would love to see the saints draft leinart, but hawk is a close second in my book. a distant third would be ferguson. lbs have just the same opportunity to bust as a qb, but the qb postion has a lot more hype around it and overall has the biggest impact on a team. a team can survive with a lb playing like crap, but NO team will survive with a qb playing like crap.

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zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	I like Hagsn pick, but I am a believer in making our O-line a focal point of our team, but I have talked not mentioning it pretty much. I like to see us trade down, just so there wouldn't be as much pressure on our #1 to succeed at first, because alotta hype could devistate a person. I don't care who we pick, as long as they help us out.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Thanks zach i though i would stir some sh#t with those but it was calm.

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01-18-2006, 09:57 AM	#20
zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	It's a overall good idea. He could help RIGHT away,