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Old 01-24-2006, 09:27 AM   #11
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From what I saw on NFL Network last night Jay Cutler had a strong showing yesterday and at least one analist had him rated above Leinart and Young. And at least he showed up.
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Old 01-24-2006, 09:39 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by FanNJ
From what I saw on NFL Network last night Jay Cutler had a strong showing yesterday and at least one analist had him rated above Leinart and Young. And at least he showed up.
I believe that was Mayock that said that.

So far, breaking footage down from the game, a couple names that have stood out.

Mike Hass - WR - Oregon State
Vickiel Vaughn - S - Arkansas

more to come....
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Old 01-24-2006, 09:58 AM   #13
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Vickiel Vaughn went to my high school and played ball with my older brother. I've seen him play at both the high school and collegiate levels. The guy always seems to be around the ball, and he was definitely the leader of Arkansas' defense this last season. He is also one of the reasons why Arkansas almost pulled out the upset of LSU this season. THe guys is good. And he's kind of flying under the radar right now.
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Old 01-24-2006, 10:05 AM   #14
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QB
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
6027 223
* Looked big and solid.
RB
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Joseph Addai, L.S.U.
5111 208
* Looked very solid.
WR
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Hank Baskett, New Mexico
6024 220
* Big, tall and cut.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Martin Nance, Miami (OH)
6037 208
* Very tall, cut and athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Maurice Stovall, Notre Dame
6041 216
* Looked very big and lean.
OL
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
6054 297
* Tall and lean with long arms.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia
6035 358
* Huge and real soft.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jonathan Scott, Texas
6061 310
* Very tall and a little flabby.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Eric Winston, Miami (FL)
6063 302
* Lean and can easily add weight.
DL
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Brodrick Bunkley, Florida St.
6023 300
* Cut and carries his weight VERY well.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Dusty Dvoracek, Oklahoma
6024 301
* Solid and compact.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Tamba Hali, Penn St.
6022 267
* Looked extremely cut.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Orien Harris, Miami (FL)
6030 302
* Carries his weight well.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Gabe Watson, Michigan
6032 341
* Big, strong and athletic.
LB
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Chad Greenway, Iowa
6021 242
* Solid and very athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Spencer Havner, U.C.L.A.
6027 239
* Looked lean and athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Thomas Howard, U.T.E.P.
6027 234
* Lean and extremely athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland
6002 228
* Strong and very cut.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Freddie Roach, Alabama
6015 255
* Very thick and solid.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ DeMeco Ryans, Alabama
6011 229
* Looked pretty thin.
DB
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Will Blackmon, Boston College
5116 200
* Looked strong and athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Daniel Bullocks, Nebraska
6004 209
* Very big and cut physically.

I would love to get a few of these guys, especially after drafting "The HawK". Just for your Deuce, now your turn to go off.
I would love to get a few of these guys too, all except Cutler that is. I think Leinart is the best QB since Peyton, and some people just don't like the favorite, so they try to go with the "trendy" alternative pick, in this case it's Cutler. The guy is pretty good, I'll give him that, but I just don't think he's better than Leinart, or will be a better pro than Leinart.

I would love to see one of those top 5 OLBs waiting for us at the 34th pick (especially Howard or Carpenter, even if it's highly unlikely). However, Cher, most of those guys do look good.

Few things...

1. I am scared of taking another player from UGA, just a bad feeling. (Jean-Gilles). Especially somebody's who labeled as soft and flabby (sound familiar???)
2'. D'Qwell Jackson is a complete stud, I would love to see the Saints show some interest in him.
3. Definitely don't think we need to waste one of our top two picks on a DE, no matter how good they are. I think that is the one position that we are set on.
4. Want to know more about Hank Baskett, Mr. Big, Tall and Cut.
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:17 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by TheDeuce
Vickiel Vaughn went to my high school and played ball with my older brother. I've seen him play at both the high school and collegiate levels. The guy always seems to be around the ball, and he was definitely the leader of Arkansas' defense this last season. He is also one of the reasons why Arkansas almost pulled out the upset of LSU this season. THe guys is good. And he's kind of flying under the radar right now.
He reminds me of a larger Bob Sanders. He looked like a missle on several hits, including one that I didn't think either player was going to walk away from. Anyone that can lay the wood like that, deserves a closer look.

Do you know how fast he is? I've been trying to find some 40 times, but may have to wait until the combine.
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:29 AM   #16
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Do you know how fast he is? I've been trying to find some 40 times, but may have to wait until the combine.
I couldn't find anything really current. Times from 2004 look like 4.45 to 4.5.



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Old 01-24-2006, 11:30 AM   #17
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if that's the case, that's pretty damn good for a guy his size.
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:35 AM   #18
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Was Maylock thankyou, was late last night, and as for "trendy alternative", having watched all three play over the past two years he, he has by far the strongest arm, good size and durability with less talent around. Reminds me of Farve, and one is entitled to there opinion. He gives the best shot at a vertical passing game. If the playbook is going to be swing passes and 15 yard slants than Lienart is a better option, but I don't see Roger Craig or Jerry Rice on the depth chart.

And personally, I thing Line backer and O line should be this years priorities.
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:49 AM   #19
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Not sure about recent times. Ran a 4.4 when he got to Arkansas, but that was before he packed on about 30 pounds of muscle. Probably slowed him down a bit, but he probably runs 4.45-4.5 range.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:15 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by FanNJ
Was Maylock thankyou, was late last night, and as for "trendy alternative", having watched all three play over the past two years he, he has by far the strongest arm, good size and durability with less talent around. Reminds me of Farve, and one is entitled to there opinion. He gives the best shot at a vertical passing game. If the playbook is going to be swing passes and 15 yard slants than Lienart is a better option, but I don't see Roger Craig or Jerry Rice on the depth chart.

And personally, I thing Line backer and O line should be this years priorities.
So, in your expert opinion, how would you say the three quarterbacks will fair in Payton's system?
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