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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; That one analyst from the NFL network's senior bowl coverage is all over Cutler. I think he is taking it too far by calling Cutler the number one QB in the draft. I would take Cutler in the second round ...

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Old 01-24-2006, 12:37 PM   #21
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That one analyst from the NFL network's senior bowl coverage is all over Cutler. I think he is taking it too far by calling Cutler the number one QB in the draft. I would take Cutler in the second round but not in the first. I have watched him play for years at Vandy, and I just wouldn't feel comfortable with him as a first round pick. The analyst was taking every chance to kiss his ass throughout the telecast. I'm not trying to bash Cutler, but I just don't think he is worth a first round pick.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:48 PM   #22
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That's Mayock for you. I trust his judgement more than I do Kiper's.

What Kiper does, that Mayock doesn't, is take into account where players should fall in the draft. Hard for me to explain, as Mayock will tell you what he thinks about an individual players, standards be damned.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:51 PM   #23
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Hardly an expert but being from Jersey and having to watch the Giants and Cowboys way to much, (Don't get me wrong have not missed more than 4 Saints games in 6 Years)where he was both OC and QB coach, (although having the reighns pulled from him in NJ) down the field throwers seem to thrive under his offense. I don't have time to go searching for stats but recollection would be that both offenses streached the field and all the quarter backs under both systems, Collins, Bledsoe, and even cokehead (Carter was it) before him in Dallas had better than average arms so, I would say of the three top options at QB in the draft:

I must predicate this first by saying I would agree that Leinart may be the one most ready to start (This Year), but not without a vast improved line and running game. And I do not believe any of the three will see playing time to start the season.

However, if we are to look say to 2007 and beyond. I would say Cutler would be the better choice for the team and system that will more likley by in place. He has the big time arm can read defenses and is mobile,

Vince Young is my second choice, He can through and contrary to popular opinion was the most recent memory the most accurate passer in college, this year. He has an arm that can get the ball downfield and has the ability to break tackles and make plays happen with his feet.

Leinart would be third. He needs outlets and floats the ball. Chad Pennington had one good year and his arm is as weak if not weaker than Pennigtons. With a true west coast offense similar to say the Sea Pigeons up there in Seattle where he need not spend time in the pocket and get hit he would be a very successful quarterback, but I don't thing he would last long going against the Defenses in the NFC South for to long twice a year.

And like I said just an opinion.
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:08 PM   #24
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I don't think his arm is weaker than Pennington's. But we shall see.

Bledsoe threw almost 90% of his passes within 30 yards of the line of scrimmage last year, which means, they threw on average about 2-3 long balls a game. You know by seeing the Cowboy games that they like to run alot of two tight end sets, which could explain alot of this. I just don't see where one QB would have a distinct advantage over another. And right now, all things considered, I'll stick with Lienart on my selection. I could be wrong, he could be the next Ryan Leaf, but that's the way the draft rolls, and I feel that his intelligence of the game is what edges him from his peers.

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Old 01-24-2006, 03:54 PM   #25
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Your entitled to your opinion and only time will tell. I just was never impressed, due to all the weapons he had and the offensive line blocking that gave hime the time to make the read/reads against arguably the worst defenses in the nation in the PAC 10. I just don't see how he fits in with the current talent and without the Dan Marino release with the bum knee. I guess I am more impressed with a guy thats able to perform with less.

Where the offense is conserned the numbers may be 90% for Bledsoe not sure, but the treat of the deep ball was always there and they did stretch the field with deep outs and seam passes in the 20 to 30 yard range. Collins did that quite often as a Giant as well as Quincy Carter (anyone from Texas will corect me here I am sure)and arm strength as well as accuracy dictate those receptions. The floaters have a tendancy to get picked a little more in the NFL.

But personnally I'd rather see a LB or LT taken with a trade down scenerio.
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Old 01-24-2006, 05:55 PM   #26
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He could be right about Cutler, you never know. He is entitled to his opinions and I respect his opinions. I just don't agree with this one. All of the so-called draft "experts" are wrong from time to time. Remember Kiper's opinions on Chris Spielman? He was way off. For my money the most accurate draft guide comes from Pro Football Weekly. Kiper, to me, is a close second. Cutler could end up being just as good as Leinart or Young, I just wouldn't be as comfortable drafting him in the first round. From what I've seen of the NFL Network's coverage of practice this week, Whitehurst looks as good if not better than Cutler. If I am investing first round money in a QB this year, give me Leinart or Young. Everyone else can wait till at least round two.
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Old 01-24-2006, 06:08 PM   #27
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Leinart & Bobby Carpenter
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Old 01-24-2006, 06:11 PM   #28
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i thnk stovall will be good in the nfl. he probably learned a lot this year. he is tall and strong.
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Old 01-24-2006, 06:20 PM   #29
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If we have to go QB then LB I say trade down about 4 spots and still get Cutler with about 8 to 10 other draft picks and maybe a veteran QB to boot. The we can take Sims, Jackson or Carpenter at #34. You have alot more chances to get good picks with 15 then you do with 7.
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Old 01-24-2006, 06:22 PM   #30
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I love the idea Cherm (as much as I like Leinart), but no one will give us that much. Only our GMs are that stupid.
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