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TallySaint 01-25-2006 02:22 PM

Sammy Knight
 
It's time for Sammy to come home.

I don't care if he's old and lost a step or two. Sign him to play, coach or inspire.


One bad head-knockin' dude.



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jergensl 01-25-2006 02:31 PM

RE: Sammy Knight
 
i agree, it was a huge mistake to let him go.

is he too slow? yes
is he a liablity in one on one coverage? yes
does he always find a way to get a turnover? yes

i want him back in black and gold

TallySaint 01-25-2006 02:45 PM

Why did we let him go? What happened there?


Feel free to chime in here, old timers.




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D_it_up 01-25-2006 08:19 PM

Well it was another case of "players losing a step" or "locker room cancer" which the Haslett camp made famous. Sammy Knight was the ONLY defensive player worth watching his last couple of years in New Orleans. His knowledge of field position more than offset his speed or lack thereof. When a safety leads your team in tackles, you know your D-line and linebackers leave much to be desired. Sammy always played every down. He is one of the most hard-nosed individuals I've ever seen wear the black and gold. I wouldn't mind seeing him back in New Orleans. He and Dwight Smith would make an awesome tandem. I know his better days are behind him, but damn I miss him.

gandhi1007 01-25-2006 08:25 PM

Dwight Smith looks to be of the same mold, only faster.

papz 01-25-2006 08:27 PM

He was a hard hitter, created turnovers, and a leader on a horrible defense. If we bring him back now, he'll just be another Jay Bellamy on our roster. While he was here, he was a a liability on defense... he gave up way too many big plays down the field. One thing he was good at was tackling... so many he could come in and give Colby some tackling lessons. Now that I would be in favor of.

hagan714 01-25-2006 08:29 PM

Sammy is a saint by blood. just look at his stats over his time with us. i would love to see him come in on passing downs and some safety work as a second teamer. Special teams could really use him. let him retire in the black and gold

D_it_up 01-25-2006 08:32 PM

Quote:

He was a hard hitter, created turnovers, and a leader on a horrible defense. If we bring him back now, he'll just be another Jay Bellamy on our roster. While he was here, he was a a liability on defense... he gave up way too many big plays down the field
You also have to realize, papz, that Sammy was having to play out of position the majority of the time due to the horrible run defense of the Saints front seven. He was constantly having to support the run, and that is why the majority of the time he looked burned on passing plays. I'll defend Sammy on that until doomsday.

BoudinSandwich 01-26-2006 01:16 AM

Sammy Knight is my idol. Soon, I'll be changing my icon to a picture of Knight that he autographed for me.

That is all.

LongTimeFan 01-26-2006 05:38 AM

Sammy was great when he was in N.O, I like him but I think he's just lost to much over the last couple of years to really contribute in a positive way, I want to see some smart young, and fast guys come to play for the Saints, it's time for us to begin winning again, for that to happen you have to have good players with speed.
Oh how I wish one day when could get back to the Dome Patrol days, I'd like another 57 type player on D.
Where is Ricky these days?

CHACHING 01-26-2006 07:30 AM

Sammy was awesome......and yes he's welcome back..
Sammy=USC
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chRxis 01-26-2006 08:40 AM

sammy was our best defensive player when he was here... i was very sad to see him go and he's been productive since he's left here (like most of our former players)... that being said, he was a liability then, and he'd be an even bigger liability now... we need to go after a young SS to complement d. smith, b/c bullocks doesn't seem to have it... i think we should do like seattle did with boulware and grab an undersized LB and convert him to SS... the williams guy from auburn would be a good candidate or in the later rounds draft scott ware from usc.... the guy was pretty good for them, even though he split time with darnell bing

Crusader 01-26-2006 08:58 AM

67 tackles, 1 INT and 5 deflected passes for Bullocks, isn't that pretty good for a rookie saftey? I haven't seen all the games this year but I thought he looked pretty good when I saw him.

chRxis 01-26-2006 09:09 AM

when i say doesn't have it, i mean he gets lost in coverage and looks confused on some downs, especially when he should know what he's doing... you can't count on someone who will lose coverage on a third and long and give up a first down b/c of a blown coverage... bullocks has done this... i know he's only a rookie, but he's played football before and shouldn't be giving up as much ground... the tackles are there, mainly b/c everyone in front of him sucks, but he lacks in the coverage dept.

Euphoria 01-26-2006 10:42 AM

I credit his mistakes to lack of coaching... you just described the team as a whole.

FatiusJeebs 01-26-2006 10:56 AM

I dunno...don't get me wrong...I too was rather pissed when we lost Sammy but.....it has been a while. I did get to enjoy him down here in Miami as well but I think Payton should follow the Jimmy Johnson formula and look for nothing but speed in our secondary. Speed, Speed, Speed.

dwiley21 01-26-2006 02:02 PM

You can't judge a rookie by one year. He has to be given the opportunity to grow and develop. Sammie Knight was a great saint, and will always be remembered as that, but that being said he is not what the team needs. Solid linebackers and another shutdown corner are what would bolster the D!

FanNJ 01-26-2006 03:37 PM

Bullocks had a good year for the most part. Many Rookie safties get burnt hear and there I'd like to see his brother in the late rounds.

Sammy was great but his last good years are behind him. He dropped off after Miami or there great secondary covered for his drop off from the Saints

D_it_up 01-26-2006 08:24 PM

I find it amusing that people say Sammy Knight has dropped off, lost a step, etcetera, etcetera. I found something PRETTY AMUSING for doubters of Sammy Knight. He's only 30 years old for one thing and STILL playing a pretty high level. Think of Ronnie Lott and how effective he was late in his career. Sammy Knight still has a few good years left. Here's his stats since he left New Orleans.

Games Played/ Tackles/ Solo/ Assisted/ Passes Defensed/ Sacks/ Forced Fumbles/ Recovery Yds/ INT/ INT Yards/ TD's


2003 MIA 16 98 78 20 6 0 2 0 3 98 0
2004 MIA 16 96 65 31 4 0 2 0 4 32 0
2005 KAN 16 90 70 20 13 2 2 80 2 12 0


Still pretty impressive if you ask me....In KC this year he was third in tackles.......behind two linebackers......something that rarely happened in New Orleans.

AllSaints 01-27-2006 06:52 AM

hmmmmmmmmmm I dont no he probly wouldnt start........

BoudinSandwich 01-27-2006 09:41 AM

I don't know, but I can tell you one thing. Sammy Knight was leagues above Jay Bellamy.

sac-a-lait 01-29-2006 08:04 AM

Sammy Knight was traded because of Michael Vick's speed. They wanted someone who could catch him.

JKool 01-29-2006 12:05 PM

I am extremely pro Sammy. The main problem with him is that he is slow; this reduces our number of coverage options. With McKenzie here that may not be as big a problem. However, once teams figured out they could go over Sammy's head, he became much less threatening to teams. I'd be happy to see him return as a "Oldham" style safety - vetran leadership and only a dime safety.

As for Bullocks, the kid wasn't projected to start this year. He came in, and while I agree he made some rookie mistakes, he looked pretty good to me. He gives us way more coverage options. In cover three, we could choose which guys to drop, rather than having it decided for us. Also, it allows the corners to gamble more in cover two, with a fast guy back there. Bullocks is the future of our SS position (though I suspect it will be a LS position instead).

papz 01-29-2006 12:19 PM

Holy shizzle... JKool... :jkool:

Only problem with that is I'm pretty sure he feels as if he still has a lot of offer. I rather not mess with Bullocks development. And with Gleason, Mitchell, Bullocks, Smith, and Bellamy, we really don't have a need for another safety. I rather carry an extra corner for coverage purposes of course... rather than a run stopping type of safety.

JKool 02-01-2006 06:06 PM

I'd swap Sammy for Bellamy no problem. :jkool:

How you doin' Papz?

ScottyRo 02-01-2006 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papz
Holy shizzle... JKool... :jkool:

I concur.

xan 02-01-2006 11:43 PM

Kool, baby sweetheart. Good to see you chime.


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