this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Vote: Did the officials steal the Super Bowl? 1) What grade would you give referee Bill Leavy's officiating crew for Super Bowl XL? 48.9% F 25.3% D 14.7% C 9.3% B 1.8% A 2) How do you rate the overall ...
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|02-06-2006, 08:46 PM||#1|
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An ESPN poll on the Superbowl officiating!
Vote: Did the officials steal the Super Bowl?
1) What grade would you give referee Bill Leavy's officiating crew for Super Bowl XL?
2) How do you rate the overall state of officiating in the NFL?
3) Did the officiating in Sunday's game unfairly favor one team?
78.8% Unfairly favored the Steelers
16.5% The right calls were made
4.8% Unfairly favored the Seahawks
4) Which played the biggest role in determining the outcome of the game?
56.3% Officials missing calls
29.5% Seahawks not making plays
14.2% Steelers making plays
5) Do you think the official made the right call on Darrell Jackson's offensive pass interference in the endzone, negating a Seattle touchdown in the first quarter?
5.9% I'm not sure
6) Do you think the football broke the plane of the goal line on Ben Roethlisberger's touchdown run in the second quarter?
14.8% I'm not sure
7) Do you think the official made the right call on Sean Locklear's holding penalty in the fourth quarter, negating an 18-yard reception to the one-yard line by Jerramy Stevens?
10.5% I'm not sure
8) Do you feel that you understand what constitutes a ''football move'' on plays involving potential fumbles?
9) How much would creating full-time officiating positions, instead of the current part-time positions, help improve the quality of NFL officiating?
45.3% A lot
42.4% A little
12.4% Not at all
10) Which major sport has the best officials?
Total Votes: 81,813
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|02-06-2006, 08:58 PM||#2|
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RE: An ESPN poll on the Superbowl officiating!
Hey Cher, that was honestly the most horribly officiated Super Bowl I have ever seen. The officials helped give the media exactly what they wanted-a Steelers win. I personally didn't care who won, although I was pulling for Seattle since they had never been & Pittsburgh already had 5. However, to give one team such an edge (& so obvious at that) is terrible for the game. In no way did Pittsburgh out play Seattle. It kind of reminded me of some Saints-Falcons games.
|02-06-2006, 09:28 PM||#3|
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Officiating was horrible, the game wasn't good as I thought it was going to be, kind of boring if you ask me.
Back to the officials, these guys go through a lot of training, they are trained to recognize a pass interference, etc, I understand that the speed of the game is very fast but you have to realize that the refs are right their on the field with the players and can see the plays better than we can in real time and get paid well to make the right calls, the offensive pass interference in the end-zone against the Hawks was just pitiful, you can't make a crazy call like that one in any game much less in the SB.
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|02-07-2006, 09:07 AM||#6|
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i absolutly hate the steelers, but i have to say that the seahawks had plenty of opportunities to win and THEY not he officials lost the game for themselves. they missed 2 field goals, had some horrible play calling and a ton of dropped balls.
|02-07-2006, 12:42 PM||#7|
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It's amazing how the press really wanted to Steelers to win, and now that they have it's OK to blast them and the officials. I hate the Steelers, but I only think there was one bad call in the whole game. The Offensive Pass Interference on Seattle to negate the TD.
I think the official that made the call for Roethlisberger's TD could have been more decisive up front. How do you run on to the feild with only one arm raised and then change it once farther in? I was or wasn't a TD, call it immediately. If you had a doubt about it getting in, then it didn't. As for the replay, it wouldn't have overturned the call either way. If it had been called down at the goalline you couldn't reverse either.
I feel the Referees try as best they can. Do they make ALL the right calls? No, but they try and it's just that technology has gotten so good it's easier to spot a mistake. Remember before HD, before eighteen camera angles per play, before replay? People complained about the calls, but didn't have a way to EASILY show the mistakes. I don't think officiating has gotten better/worse, but we've gotten better at catching it when they make a mistake.
|02-08-2006, 07:32 AM||#8|
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I thought the refs were obviously trying to throw the game towards the Steelers. It was a a comment that I made to myself before the first half was over, and when the subject of MVP came up I immediately thought of the referees. I think it is something that we saw a lot this year in a lot of different games (Indy/Pitt for an example.)
I have always thought that the Saints have frequently been on the wrong side of crucial penalties, and I have, since 1967, wondered if some games were being thrown or fixed. This year it has become very obvious and I wonder if the NFL isn't going in the direction of the WWF, where, in there minds, they are entertaining us. Who cares if it is not real. It seems to be a sign of the time. Look at all the reality shows on the air that are 90% fake. Who cares if it is not really real, as long as the general public is watching and buying the products they endorse.
|02-08-2006, 08:37 AM||#9|
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Lemme preface: didn't care who won; watched to be entertained; wasn't entertained that much (game stunk)
I think this is more the media going into one of their crusades to have something to ***** about and create controversy.... referees make bad calls every game. As stated before by BJ, it is very different to make a judgement decision on a play you see in fractions of a second than to make a judgement decision after you have seen the play 15 times from 15 different angles in slow motion going backwards and forwards zooming in on a blade of grass.
As far as the SB, my impression is that the referees were calling the game very tight:
The Matt Hasselbeck fumble was a fumble. Farrior grazed Matt's hip with his fingertips, which obviously did not cause Matt to go to the ground, heck didn't even change Matt's trajectory, and Hasselbeck took at least 3 steps after he was touched. How many steps can a player take after he's been grazed by another player's fingertips? This is not a question of someone's knee being on the ground and being touched. Yet, the referees called down by contact.
The pass interference against Seattle was another example of the game being called too tight. If you look at the replay you'll see that the receiver had his hand on the DB's chest and as he made his cut the other way, the receiver's hand stayed there and his arm became fully extended before contact stopped. Unless you have some device on the DB's chest to measure the force that's being applied by the receiver, that sure looks like the receiver is pushing off.
The holding call when madden said "I didn't see holding", the Seattle tackle was behind the Piitsburgh player holding on to his shoulder with his arm. Speaking of that, that RT had many blatant holding penalties throughout the game that were not called. For example, on that pass to Jureviscious, the guy had a choke hold on the Pitt end, and the referees didn't call it.
On Ben's TD run, I thought the ball did cross the line after seeing the replay in slo-mo 10 times, but that one is obviously one of those that can go either way, even after looking at the replay 100 times.
As for Seattle *****ing about the referees:
Tell Softy Stevens not to drop passes in the endzone.
Tell Holmgren to manage the clock better during 2 minute warnings.
Tell your kicker not to miss 2 field goals.
Train your DB's so they can actually run 100 yards at full throttle and not be chased down by linemen.
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|02-08-2006, 10:23 AM||#10|
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I'll give them a pass on a hold but the one that brought back the big play for Seattle was a phantom hold it just wasn't there. The Steelers TD should have been reversed the Seattle TD should have counted. The Horse Collar that wasn't called. I would say that it wasn't enought to change the outcome of the game but after the Horse Collar it definately change momentum. Give the team 15 yards, another score from the holding and a TD, even if you still give pitt the TD, it would have seriously effected the games outcome to a degree.
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