Looks like it could happen?

ssmitty · 02-08-2006, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs

Why can't we do that? Why can't someone come in and try to make AB a better Quaterback? I'm sorry...I feel AB has the tools....I honestly think AB's talent could not flourish under the offemsive scheme he was under. He is better at short passing and rolling out. I think he will do better with a west coast type of deal. I would not waste time or money for Kitna. At all!!!!

be very carefull what you wish for, that scenerio is quite possible with the new coach.....smitty

CheramieIII · 02-08-2006, 06:14 PM

I'd love to take Kitna. Let's get rid of Bouman, too. He's just a clone of AB. We'll draft an awesome rookie , and while he develops, let Kitna be our certainty of atleast having someone that can play the position decently. We also need to continue to develop McPherson.

I agree with ya Oldie, but I still think we need to pick up Kitna as a backup, keep AMAC and go out and get another vet that can start or draft a QB with our second pick in the draft that Kitna can help develop alongside AMAC, possibly Jacobs.

LongTimeFan · 02-09-2006, 05:48 AM

Brooks has one hell of an arm, one of the best in the league, but he's like the scarecrow of Wizard Of Oz, he has no brain, and no the great wizard can't give him a brain.
With a young drafted qb the Saints will have to pick up a FA qb to give time for the young qb to learn the system, I wouldn't mine having Kitna for a 1-2 year deal, I don't see anything wrong with signing Kitna short term.

FanNJ · 02-09-2006, 07:57 AM

Not saying Brooks will be the backup. odds are and this is just an edjucated guess that is a QB is drafted with the first (or second pick) in the draft then you will see him in the Black and Gold again next year starting, then don't be surprised when he has a great turn around season (much in the way of Drew Brees) and will be traded at end of season due to the escalating salary figure.

If a trade is made for say a quality starter or one is picked up in FA then you will likley see him gone. With all the holes to address on this team, and a coach that has turned around the careers of quite a few quarterbacks I expect to see him back next year. That is just my gut feeling.

jrmllb · 02-09-2006, 05:55 PM

Kitna aint the answer...AB isnt either

TheDeuce · 02-09-2006, 06:08 PM

I agree with ya Oldie, but I still think we need to pick up Kitna as a backup, keep AMAC and go out and get another vet that can start or draft a QB with our second pick in the draft that Kitna can help develop alongside AMAC, possibly Jacobs.

Come on Cher, I thought you had finally learned! Having four QBs graded out in the 60s doesn't give you a rating of a 240 at the QB position. Only one guy can play, and he has to be GOOD!!!!!!!!! You can't just bring in a bunch of guys because ONLY ONE CAN PLAY. The rest will be eating up salary cap room. We need a franchise QB, just one guy. Then have ONE backup, whether that's Kitna or some other vet, I don't care. But going out and getting four average QBs isn't going to solve any problems, it'll only create them. Am I the only one who understands this?

Winwin · 02-09-2006, 07:13 PM

Come on Cher, I thought you had finally learned! Having four QBs graded out in the 60s doesn't give you a rating of a 240 at the QB position. Only one guy can play, and he has to be GOOD!!!!!!!!! You can't just bring in a bunch of guys because ONLY ONE CAN PLAY. The rest will be eating up salary cap room. We need a franchise QB, just one guy. Then have ONE backup, whether that's Kitna or some other vet, I don't care. But going out and getting four average QBs isn't going to solve any problems, it'll only create them. Am I the only one who understands this?

you're the only one that thinks that way, i credit that to the medication you take. qb #1-4, 5, 6 etc. can't create wins carry this team for years without help... last i counted we've gone over 6years without a win by our defense where the offense didn't do jack.

look and find how many winning teams win regular throughout the season without the offense stumbling and the defense playing poorly, and compare to those where offense plays horrible and the defense plays good to great.

in other words, still haven't figured out that the problem with this franchise isn't the quarterback? 6 years without a win by the defense? how many does carolina have? they have more than 6 this past year alone, so does indy and new england. have to be a stupid idiot not to miss that...

CheramieIII · 02-09-2006, 07:29 PM

Come on Cher, I thought you had finally learned! Having four QBs graded out in the 60s doesn't give you a rating of a 240 at the QB position. Only one guy can play, and he has to be GOOD!!!!!!!!! You can't just bring in a bunch of guys because ONLY ONE CAN PLAY. The rest will be eating up salary cap room. We need a franchise QB, just one guy. Then have ONE backup, whether that's Kitna or some other vet, I don't care. But going out and getting four average QBs isn't going to solve any problems, it'll only create them. Am I the only one who understands this?

I respect your opinion D, but I really think with an average veteran QB (Not Brooks) we will do alot better. I don't think AB has any leadership skills at all. I mean look at Palmer, don't you think that Kitna had something to do with his development? I really like Jacobs and believe he would do the samething off the bench that AB did in his first couple of seasons. Don't get me wrong if this were any other year I would draft Leinart in a heartbeat. I would prefer to have Volek, Ferotte or Collins but I really think that my scenario is likely to happen and I am going to stick to it. Names can change to protect the innocent.

FatiusJeebs · 02-10-2006, 11:01 AM

I said the same thing in another thread. We lead the league in dropped pases....false starts.... and probably fumbles too. And ALL of this is Brooks's fault? Our defense was at the bottom echleon of the league. Pop-warner could have rushed for over 100 yards on the Saints.....and our lack of success is AB's fault? Signing Kitna and drafting Jesus Christ is gonna save our team?? I don't see the logic.

dwiley21 · 02-10-2006, 02:45 PM

I agree Bouman needs to go, but not sold on Kitna.

02-08-2006, 04:52 PM	#21
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs Why can't we do that? Why can't someone come in and try to make AB a better Quaterback? I'm sorry...I feel AB has the tools....I honestly think AB's talent could not flourish under the offemsive scheme he was under. He is better at short passing and rolling out. I think he will do better with a west coast type of deal. I would not waste time or money for Kitna. At all!!!! be very carefull what you wish for, that scenerio is quite possible with the new coach.....smitty
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02-09-2006, 07:57 AM	#24
FanNJ 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 324	Not saying Brooks will be the backup. odds are and this is just an edjucated guess that is a QB is drafted with the first (or second pick) in the draft then you will see him in the Black and Gold again next year starting, then don't be surprised when he has a great turn around season (much in the way of Drew Brees) and will be traded at end of season due to the escalating salary figure. If a trade is made for say a quality starter or one is picked up in FA then you will likley see him gone. With all the holes to address on this team, and a coach that has turned around the careers of quite a few quarterbacks I expect to see him back next year. That is just my gut feeling.
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02-09-2006, 06:08 PM	#26
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	I agree with ya Oldie, but I still think we need to pick up Kitna as a backup, keep AMAC and go out and get another vet that can start or draft a QB with our second pick in the draft that Kitna can help develop alongside AMAC, possibly Jacobs. Come on Cher, I thought you had finally learned! Having four QBs graded out in the 60s doesn't give you a rating of a 240 at the QB position. Only one guy can play, and he has to be GOOD!!!!!!!!! You can't just bring in a bunch of guys because ONLY ONE CAN PLAY. The rest will be eating up salary cap room. We need a franchise QB, just one guy. Then have ONE backup, whether that's Kitna or some other vet, I don't care. But going out and getting four average QBs isn't going to solve any problems, it'll only create them. Am I the only one who understands this?
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02-09-2006, 07:13 PM	#27
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	Come on Cher, I thought you had finally learned! Having four QBs graded out in the 60s doesn't give you a rating of a 240 at the QB position. Only one guy can play, and he has to be GOOD!!!!!!!!! You can't just bring in a bunch of guys because ONLY ONE CAN PLAY. The rest will be eating up salary cap room. We need a franchise QB, just one guy. Then have ONE backup, whether that's Kitna or some other vet, I don't care. But going out and getting four average QBs isn't going to solve any problems, it'll only create them. Am I the only one who understands this? you're the only one that thinks that way, i credit that to the medication you take. qb #1-4, 5, 6 etc. can't create wins carry this team for years without help... last i counted we've gone over 6years without a win by our defense where the offense didn't do jack. look and find how many winning teams win regular throughout the season without the offense stumbling and the defense playing poorly, and compare to those where offense plays horrible and the defense plays good to great. in other words, still haven't figured out that the problem with this franchise isn't the quarterback? 6 years without a win by the defense? how many does carolina have? they have more than 6 this past year alone, so does indy and new england. have to be a stupid idiot not to miss that...
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02-09-2006, 07:29 PM	#28
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Come on Cher, I thought you had finally learned! Having four QBs graded out in the 60s doesn't give you a rating of a 240 at the QB position. Only one guy can play, and he has to be GOOD!!!!!!!!! You can't just bring in a bunch of guys because ONLY ONE CAN PLAY. The rest will be eating up salary cap room. We need a franchise QB, just one guy. Then have ONE backup, whether that's Kitna or some other vet, I don't care. But going out and getting four average QBs isn't going to solve any problems, it'll only create them. Am I the only one who understands this? I respect your opinion D, but I really think with an average veteran QB (Not Brooks) we will do alot better. I don't think AB has any leadership skills at all. I mean look at Palmer, don't you think that Kitna had something to do with his development? I really like Jacobs and believe he would do the samething off the bench that AB did in his first couple of seasons. Don't get me wrong if this were any other year I would draft Leinart in a heartbeat. I would prefer to have Volek, Ferotte or Collins but I really think that my scenario is likely to happen and I am going to stick to it. Names can change to protect the innocent.
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02-08-2006, 06:14 PM	#22
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	I'd love to take Kitna. Let's get rid of Bouman, too. He's just a clone of AB. We'll draft an awesome rookie , and while he develops, let Kitna be our certainty of atleast having someone that can play the position decently. We also need to continue to develop McPherson. I agree with ya Oldie, but I still think we need to pick up Kitna as a backup, keep AMAC and go out and get another vet that can start or draft a QB with our second pick in the draft that Kitna can help develop alongside AMAC, possibly Jacobs.

02-09-2006, 05:48 AM	#23
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Brooks has one hell of an arm, one of the best in the league, but he's like the scarecrow of Wizard Of Oz, he has no brain, and no the great wizard can't give him a brain. With a young drafted qb the Saints will have to pick up a FA qb to give time for the young qb to learn the system, I wouldn't mine having Kitna for a 1-2 year deal, I don't see anything wrong with signing Kitna short term.

02-09-2006, 05:55 PM	#25
jrmllb 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Posts: 665	Kitna aint the answer...AB isnt either

02-10-2006, 11:01 AM	#29
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	I said the same thing in another thread. We lead the league in dropped pases....false starts.... and probably fumbles too. And ALL of this is Brooks's fault? Our defense was at the bottom echleon of the league. Pop-warner could have rushed for over 100 yards on the Saints.....and our lack of success is AB's fault? Signing Kitna and drafting Jesus Christ is gonna save our team?? I don't see the logic.
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02-10-2006, 02:45 PM	#30
dwiley21 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 216	I agree Bouman needs to go, but not sold on Kitna.
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