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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by WhoDatQB AB has two good things going for him, a strong arm, and decent legs. The problem is his legs tend to send him backwards to often and his throws tend to go to the wrong guy. ...

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Old 02-13-2006, 09:41 AM   #51
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Re: Greenbay May Want AB!

Originally Posted by WhoDatQB
AB has two good things going for him, a strong arm, and decent legs. The problem is his legs tend to send him backwards to often and his throws tend to go to the wrong guy.

Things against AB.
1. Arm, too strong for his own good, tried to fit passes in sometimes.
2. Arm, inaccurate.
3. Hands, must be the size of a fourth graders the way he drops the ball all the time.
4. Nothing upstairs, except some dust.
5. Poor attitude, if I see that laugh after another interception I will vomit.
6. Needed leadership training.
7. Blames problems on everyone else.
8. Mistakes ALWAYS at the wrong times. How many INT's or Fumbles do we have to see inside our or our opponents 20 yard line.
9. Could have made the Bears defense from this year look bad.

That being said there will be some HC and some QB coach that say, wow look at that RAW talent. I could make him into a star. I say AB is worth at least a third if not a second round pick.

If I have to hear RAW talent uttered together describing another one of our draft picks I may have to seek psychiatric help. I want to hear polished, poised, when describing our picks and Free agents this year.
Good post WDQB and welcome aboard.
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Old 02-13-2006, 10:10 AM   #52
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Well then.....if its poised and polished you want...then who is available now with those particular characteristics?

I hate this predicament. Stay with AB or let him go and get a FA or draft pick and pray that niehter ends up like another Heath Shuler. WOW!!!
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Old 02-13-2006, 10:14 AM   #53
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Welcome aboard whodat..
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Old 02-13-2006, 04:45 PM   #54
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Greenbay May Want AB!

There is this Huge Freakin guy running around crushing people. A serial Crusher.

Fatius,
well I am not sure who I want, I am tired of AB crushing chances of winning games. Look at the turnovers inside the 20 for the last three years. Holy idiocy Batman.

As far as in the Draft, I want Leinart. Sorry VY is "RAW" and so is Cutler. We need a QB.

As far as FA, there are normally very few "RAW" guys around, most of them have been classified as a bust after four years. AB is still "RAW" and a bust if you ask me.
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:35 PM   #55
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Question. Who was the last Norm Cow Quarterback or So. Cal. QB (Besides Palmer Gentlemen) that was not a bust in the NFL? Think about this one. As I do not believe there where any and that was the big knock on Palmer although he did buck that but he has the tools and the supporting cast in Cincy. Most others could not adapt from the system, so I would consider Leinart RAW also, like all college QB's.
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Old 02-13-2006, 07:05 PM   #56
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Re: RE: Greenbay May Want AB!

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Question. Who was the last Norm Cow Quarterback or So. Cal. QB (Besides Palmer Gentlemen) that was not a bust in the NFL? Think about this one. As I do not believe there where any and that was the big knock on Palmer although he did buck that but he has the tools and the supporting cast in Cincy. Most others could not adapt from the system, so I would consider Leinart RAW also, like all college QB's.
... you make no sense.
Regardless what Chow's QB's did or didn't do in the NFL, not one school sends QBs into the NFL like donuts. Norm Chow's job while in college was to tutor QBs for the college game, not to groom them to be NFL superstars.

Chow was in USC for 4 years only... how many more QB's could he possibly groom?

Besides, he was in BYU in the early 80's, so you are talking Steve Young and Jim McMahon... I don't believe those 2 were busts...

And there never was a knock on Palmer when he came out.

I'm not saying Chow is God and magically creates HOF'ers, but the man has coached some very good college players - which was his job - and a few of those have turned out to be pretty good NFL players.

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I'm not even going to get into this debate but wanted to welcome Whodat to the board. I do think Brooks and Bouman need to go.
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:05 AM   #58
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CheramieIII, thanks for the welcome.

FanNJ,
as far as I can remember(and sometimes that is pretty short) there were no knocks on Palmer. He was rated very high. I will take a, "RAW" as you call Lienart, QB out of college rather than a RAW QB that has been in the league more than 5 years and still has not figured it out.

In the grand scheme all QB's are seen as somewhat Raw with the learnign curve moving from the college ranks to the NFL. IF a QB that is a proven winner, hates to lose, has all the tools to succeed in the Pros, can make all the throws, and has graded out by many to be one of the top QB's ever is considered RAW, then sign me up.
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Im wit cha whodat..
And Matt has done nothing but win his whole career...(Rose Bowl exception)
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