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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; With all the talk about the upcoming draft, what do you guys think was our best draft year? I am partial to 1986. The year we got Jim Dombrowski, Dalton Hilliard, Reuben Mayes, & Pat Swilling in the first 4 ...

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Old 03-03-2006, 01:12 PM   #1
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WHAT WAS THE SAINTS BEST DRAFT?

With all the talk about the upcoming draft, what do you guys think was our best draft year?

I am partial to 1986. The year we got Jim Dombrowski, Dalton Hilliard, Reuben Mayes, & Pat Swilling in the first 4 rounds.
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RE: WHAT WAS THE SAINTS BEST DRAFT?

Hard to beat.
In the Haz era I think the draft of two years ago. With Smith Watson Buckwalt and Devery, may see dividends this season as well as last years. I really like Brown & Bullocks, and if A Mac and Fincher pan out I think there could be some deep talent that the new staff will turn into something.
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I think our best draft was the one where Ditka traded all of our picks for our rookie class of Ricky Williams! Oh wait no that was our WORST draft!
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Les Kelly in 67. Talk about setting us up for the future.
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Hard to beat Danny A, in the 17th round.

But just on 'names' I know Id say: 1993, 1992, 1986, or1985.

My best guess on a quick glance is 1986. Didn't we have a REAL football GM then?

New Orleans Saints Draft History

2005
Rnd Name College Note
1 Jammal Brown Oklahoma
2 Josh Bullocks Nebraska
3 Alfred Fincher Connecticut
4 Chase Lyman California
5 Adrian McPherson Florida State
6 Jason Jefferson Wisconsin
7 Jimmy Verdon Arizona State

2004
Rnd Name College Note
1 Will Smith Ohio State
2 Devery Henderson Louisiana State
2 Courtney Watson Notre Dame
5 Rodney Leisle UCLA
5 Mike Karney Arizona State
7 Colby Bockwoldt Brigham Young

2003
Rnd Name College Note
1 Johnathan Sullivan Georgia
2 Jonathan Stinchcomb Georgia
3 Willie Grant (Cie) Ohio State
4 Montrae Holland Florida State
5 Melvin Williams Kansas State
6 Kareem Kelly USC
7 Talman Gardner Florida State

2002
Rnd Name College Note
1 Donte Stallworth Tennessee
1 Charles Grant Georgia
2 LeCharles Bentley Ohio State
3 James Allen Oregon State
4 Keyuo Craver Nebraska
5 Mel Mitchell Western Kentucky
6 J.T. O'Sullivan California-Davis
6 John Gilmore Penn State
7 Derrius Monroe Virginia Tech

2001
Rnd Name College Note
1 Deuce McAllister Mississippi
3 Sedrick Hodge North Carolina
3 Kenny Smith Alabama
4 Moran Norris Kansas
5 Onomoe Ojo California-Davis
6 Mitch White Oregon State
7 Ennis Davis USC

2000
Rnd Name College Note
2 Darren Howard Kansas State
4 Terrelle Smith Arizona State
5 Tutan Reyes Mississippi
5 Austin Wheatley Iowa
5 Chad Morton USC
6 Marc Bulger West Virginia
6 Michael Hawthorne Purdue
6 Sherrod Gideon Southern Mississippi
7 Kevin Houser Ohio State

1999
Rnd Name College Note
1 Ricky Williams Texas

1998
Rnd Name College Note
1 Kyle Turley San Diego State
2 Cameron Cleeland Washington
4 Fred Weary Florida
4 Julian Pittman Florida State
5 Wilmont Perry Livingstone College
6 Chris Bordano Southern Methodist
7 Andy McCullough Tennessee
7 Ron Warner Kansas

1997
Rnd Name College Note
1 Chris Naeole Colorado
2 Rob Kelly Ohio State
2 Jared Tomich Nebraska
3 Troy Davis Iowa State
4 Danny Wuerffel Florida
4 Keith Poole Arizona State
6 Nicky Savoie Louisiana State

1996
Rnd Name College Note
1 Alex Molden Oregon
2 Jerod Cherry California
3 Brady Smith Colorado State
4 Ricky Whittle Oregon
5 Mercury Hayes Michigan
5 Tom Ackerman Eastern Washington
5 Terry Guess Gardner-Webb
6 Keno Hills Southwestern Louisiana
6 Toderick Malone Alabama
7 Henry Lusk Utah

1995
Rnd Name College Note
1 Mark Fields Washington State
2 Ray Zellars Notre Dame
3 Mike Verstegen Wisconsin
4 Dameian Jeffries Alabama
5 William Strong North Carolina State
6 Lee DeRamus Wisconsin
7 Travis Davis Notre Dame

1994
Rnd Name College Note
1 Joe Johnson Louisville
2 Mario Bates Arizona State
3 Winfred Tubbs Texas
4 Doug Nussmeier Idaho
5 Herman Carroll Mississippi State
5 Craig Novitsky UCLA
7 Lance Lundeberg Nebraska

1993
Rnd Name College Note
1 Willie Roaf Louisiana Tech
1 Irv Smith Notre Dame
2 Reggie Freeman Florida State
4 Lorenzo Neal Fresno State
4 Derek Brown Nebraska
5 Tyrone Hughes Nebraska
6 Ronnie Dixon Cincinnati
7 Othello Henderson UCLA
8 Jon Kirksey Cal State-Sacramento

1992
Rnd Name College Note
1 Vaughn Dunbar Indiana
3 Tyrone Legette Nebraska
4 Gene McGuire Notre Dame
4 Sean Lumpkin Minnesota
5 Torrance Small Alcorn State
6 Kary Vincent Texas A&M
8 Robert Stewart Alabama
9 Donald Jones Washington
10 Marcus Dowdell Tennessee State
11 Mike Gisler Houston
12 Scott Adell North Carolina State

1991
Rnd Name College Note
2 Wesley Carroll Miami (FL)
5 Reginald Jones Memphis State
6 Fred McAfee Mississippi College
7 Hayward Haynes Florida State
8 Frank Wainright Northern Colorado
9 Anthony Wallace California
11 Scott Ross USC
12 Mark Drabczak Minnesota

1990
Rnd Name College Note
1 Renaldo Turnbull West Virginia
2 Vince Buck Central State (OH)
3 Joel Smeenge Western Michigan
4 DeMond Winston Vanderbilt
5 Charles Arbuckle UCLA
6 Mike Buck Maine
6 James Williams Mississippi State
7 Scott Hough Maine
8 Gerry Gdowski Nebraska
8 Derrick Carr Bowling Green
9 Broderick Graves Winston-Salem State
9 Lonnie Brockman West Virginia
10 Gary Cooper Clemson
10 Ernest Spears USC
11 Webbie Burnett Western Kentucky
12 Chris Port Duke

1989
Rnd Name College Note
1 Wayne Martin Arkansas
2 Robert Massey North Carolina Central
3 Kim Phillips North Texas
4 Mike Mayes Louisiana State
5 Kevin Haverdink Western Michigan
6 Floyd Turner Northwest Louisiana
7 David Griggs Virginia
8 Fred Hadley Mississippi State
9 Jerry Leggett Fullerton State
10 Joe Henderson Iowa State
11 Calvin Nicholson Oregon State
12 Mike Carore Eastern Kentucky

1988
Rnd Name College Note
1 Craig Heyward Pittsburgh
2 Brett Perriman Miami (FL)
3 Tony Stephens Clemson
4 Lydell Carr Oklahoma
5 Greg Scales Wake Forest
5 Keith Taylor Illinois
6 Bob Sims Florida
7 Brian Forde Washington State
8 Glenn Derby Wisconsin
9 Clarence Nunn San Diego State
10 Todd Santos San Diego State
10 Vincent Fizer Southern
11 Gary Couch Minnesota
12 Paul Jurgensen Georgia Tech

1987
Rnd Name College Note
1 Shawn Knight Brigham Young
2 Lonzell Hill Washington
3 Mike Adams Arkansas State
4 Steve Trapilo Boston College
5 Milton Mack Alcorn State
6 Thomas Henley Stanford
7 Gene Atkins Florida A&M
8 Toi Cook Stanford
9 Scott Leach Ohio State
10 Robert Clark North Carolina Central
11 Arthur Wells Grambling
12 Tyrone Sorrells Georgia Tech

1986
Rnd Name College Note
1 Jim Dombrowski Virginia
2 Dalton Hilliard Louisiana State
3 Rueben Mayes Washington State
3 Pat Swilling Georgia Tech
3 Barry Word Virginia
4 Kelvin Edwards Liberty
5 Reggie Sutton Miami (FL)
6 Robert Thompson Youngstown State
7 Gill Fenerty Holy Cross
8 Filipo Mokofisi Utah
9 Merlon Jones Florida A&M
10 Jon Dumbauld Kentucky
11 Pat Swoopes Mississippi State
12 Sebastian Brown Bethune-Cookman

1985
Rnd Name College Note
1 Alvin Toles Tennessee
2 Daren Gilbert Fullerton State
3 Jack DelRio USC
4 Billy Allen Florida State
7 Eric Martin Louisiana State
8 Joe Kohlbrand Miami (FL)
9 Earl Johnson South Carolina
12 Treg Songy Tulane

1984
Rnd Name College Note
1 Vaughan Johnson North Carolina State
2 Mel Gray Purdue
2 Jumpy Geathers Wichita State
3 Terry Hoage Georgia
3 Steve Bearden Vanderbilt
3 Tyrone Williams North Carolina
4 Joel Hilgenberg Iowa
5 Jitter Fields Texas
6 Don Thorp Illinois
8 Clemon Terrell Southern Mississippi
9 Brian Hansen Sioux Falls
10 Paul Gray Western Kentucky
11 Michael Bourgeau Boise State
12 Byron Nelson Arizona

1983
Rnd Name College Note
2 Steve Korte Arkansas
3 John Tice Maryland
3 Cliff Astin Clemson
4 Gary Lewis Oklahoma State
8 David Greenwood Wisconsin

1982
Rnd Name College Note
1 Lindsay Scott Georgia
2 Brad Edelman Missouri
3 Rodney Lewis Nebraska
3 Eugene Goodlow Kansas State
3 Kenny Duckett Wake Forest
3 John Krimm Notre Dame
4 Morten Andersen Michigan State
5 Tony Elliott North Texas State
6 Marvin Lewis Tulane
8 Chuck Slaughter South Carolina

1981
Rnd Name College Note
1 Dave Wilson Illinois suplapmental
1 George Rogers South Carolina
2 Russell Gary Nebraska
2 Ricky Jackson Pittsburgh
3 Frank Warren Auburn
3 Hoby Brenner USC
5 Louis Orbre Oklahoma
5 Jerry Boyarsky Pittsburgh
6 Nat Hudson Georgia
6 Johnnie Poe Missouri
6 Glen Redd Brigham Young
7 Kevin Williams USC
8 Gene Gladys Penn State
8 Kevin Eavns Arkansas
9 Toussaint Tyler Washington
10 Hokie Gajan Louisiana State
11 Lester Mickens Kansas
12 Jim Wilks San Diego State

1980
Rnd Name College Note
1 Stan Brock Colorado
2 Dave Waymer Notre Dame
4 Mike Jolly Michigan
6 Lester Boyd Kentucky
7 Mike Morucci Bloomsburg State (PA)
8 Chuck Evans Stanford
9 Frank Mordica Vanderbilt
10 Tanya Webb Michigan State
11 George Woodard Texas A&M
12 Kiser Lewis Florida A&M

1979
Rnd Name College Note
1 Russell Erxleben Texas
2 Reggie Mathis Oklahoma
4 Jim Kovach Kentucky
5 Harlan Huckleby Michigan
6 Ricky Ray Norfolk State
7 Stan Sytsma Minnesota
8 Doug Panfil Tulsa
11 David Hall Missouri-Rolla
12 Kelsey Finch Tennessee

1978
Rnd Name College Note
1 Wes Chandler Florida
2 James Taylor Missouri
3 Barry Bennett Concordia
4 Don Schwartz Washington State
5 Eric Felton Texas Tech
6 Mike Rieker Lehigh
6 Francis Chesley Wyoming
8 Brooks Williams North Carolina
9 Richard Carter North Carolina State
11 Nathan Besaint Southern
11 Dave Riley West Virginia
12 Larry Hardy Jackson State

1977
Rnd Name College Note
1 Joe Campbell Maryland
2 Mike Fultz Nebraska
3 Robert Watts Boston College
5 Dave Lafary Purdue
5 Dave Hubbard Brigham Young
6 Cliff Parsley Oklahoma State
6 Tom Schick Maryland
7 Greg Boykin Northwestern
8 Jimmy Stewart Tulsa
9 Dave Knowles Indiana
10 Rafael Septien Southwestern Louisiana
11 John Blain San Jose State
12 Oaklay Dalton Jackson State

1976
Rnd Name College Note
1 Chuck Muncie California
2 Tony Galbreath Missouri
3 Bob Simmons Texas
4 Tinker Owens Oklahoma
5 Scott Parrish Utah State
6 Terry Stieve Wisconsin
7 Ed Bauer Notre Dame
8 Craig Cassady Ohio State
9 Warren Peiffer Iowa
10 Junior Hardin Eastern Kentucky
11 Greg Kokal Kent State
12 Milton Butts North Carolina Central
13 Kenny Downing Missouri
14 Rich Hucke Western Montana
15 Steve Seminoff Wichita State
16 Gene Jones Bowling Green
17 Scott MacDonald West Virginia

1975
Rnd Name College Note
1 Larry Burton Purdue
1 Kurt Schumacher Ohio State
2 Lee Gross Auburn
3 Andrew Jones Washington State
3 Elois Grooms Tennessee Tech
4 John Starkebaum Nebraska
4 Charlie Hall Tulane
6 Mike Lemon Kansas
7 Steve Rogers Louisiana State
9 Mike Strachan Iowa State
10 Chuck Heater Michigan
11 Danny Lee N.E. Louisiana
12 Ron Gustafson North Dakota
13 Jim Upchurch Arizona
14 Randy Rhino Georgia Tech
15 Grant Burget Oklahoma
16 Mike McDonald Catawba
17 Greg Westbrooks Colorado

1974
Rnd Name College Note
1 Rick Middleton Ohio State
2 Paul Seal Michigan
4 Rod McNeill USC
5 Joel Parker Florida
5 Terry Schmidt Ball State
8 Alvin Maxon Southern Methodist
9 Phil La Porta Penn State
10 Frosty Anderson Nebraska
10 Tommy Thibodeaux Tulane
11 Kent Merritt Virginia
12 Jim Buckmon Pittsburgh
13 Mike Trusz Tulane
14 Kent Marshall Texas Christian
15 Larry Gipa Michigan
16 Don Coleman Michigan
17 Marvin Williams Western Illinois

1973
Rnd Name College Note
2 Derland Moore Oklahoma
2 Steve Barmgartner Purdue
3 Pete Van Valkenburg Brigham Young
4 Jim Merlo Stanford
6 Marty Shuford Arizona
7 Bill Cahill Washington
8 Bob Peterson Utah
8 Doug Winslow Drake
9 Mike Fink Missouri
10 Jeff Horsley North Carolina Central
11 James Ownes Auburn
12 Paul Orndorf Tampa
13 Richard Watkins Weber State
14 Paul Fersen Georgia
15 Mike Evenson North Dakota State
16 Howard Stevens Louisville
17 Bobby Garner Winston-Salem

1972
Rnd Name College Note
1 Royce Smith Georgia
2 Willie Hall USC
3 Robert Kuziel Pittsburgh
3 Tom Myers Syracuse
4 Mike Crangle Tennessee-Martin
4 Joe Federspiel Kentucky
4 Mike Coleman Knoxville College
5 Bill Butler Kansas State
5 Carl Johnson Nebraska
5 Bob Davies South Carolina
6 Wayne Dorton Arkansas State
6 Curt Watson Tennessee
7 Ernie Jackson Duke
8 Ron Vinson Abilene Christian
9 Kent Branstetter Houston
10 Andy Kupp Idaho
11 Paul Dongieux Mississippi
12 Steve Lockhart Arkansas State
13 Cephus Weatherspoon Fort Lewis
14 Steve Barrios Tulane
15 Rusty Lachaussee Tulane
16 Joe Balthrop Tennessee

1971
Rnd Name College Note
1 Archie Manning Mississippi
2 Samuel Holden Grambling
3 Bivian Lee Prairie View A&M
4 Carlos Bell Houston
4 Wimpy Winther Mississippi
4 D'Artagnan Martin Kentucky State
4 Don Morrison Texas-Arlington
6 Don Moorhead Michigan
7 Larry DiNardo Notre Dame
7 Bob Newland Oregon
8 James Elder Southern
8 Bob Gresham West Virginia
9 Tom Williams Willamette
10 Rocky Pamplin Hawaii
11 Bob Pollard Weber State
12 Ron Gathright Morehead State
13 Don Burchfield Ball State
14 Bobby Scott Tennessee
15 Bart Graves Tulane
16 Craig Robinson Houston
17 Hermann Eben Oklahoma State

1970
Rnd Name College Note
1 Ken Burrough Texas Southern
3 Clovis Swinney Arkansas State
4 Delles Howell Grambling
5 Glenn Cannon Mississippi
5 Steve Ramsey North Texas State
6 Mel Easley Oregon State
7 Lon Woodard San Diego State
8 Lawrence Estes Alcorn A&M
9 Jim Otis Ohio State
10 Jim Brumfield Indiana State
11 Gary Klahr Arizona
12 Willie Davenport Southern
13 Ralph Miller Alabama State
14 Doug Sutherland Wisconsin-Superior
15 Jim Vest Washington State
16 Cliff Gasper Grambling
17 Doug Wyatt Tulsa

1969
Rnd Name College Note
1 John Shinners Xavier
2 Richard Neal Southern
4 Dennis Hale Minnesota
4 Bob Hudspeth Southern Illinois
5 Tony Kyasky Syracuse
5 Keith Christensen Kansas
6 Bob Miller USC
8 Jim Lawrence USC
9 Joe Owens Alcorn A&M
10 McKinley Reynolds Hawaii
11 Tom Morel Louisiana State
12 Tom Broadhead Santa Barbara
13 Joe Robillard Linfield (Ore.)
14 Gary Loyd California-Lutheran
15 Bill Waller Xavier
16 Ed Hargett Texas A&M
17 Chico Kurzawski Northwestern

1968
Rnd Name College Note
1 Kevin Hardy Notre Dame
3 Dave Szymakowski West Texas State
4 Willie Crittendon Tulsa
4 Dan Sartin Mississippi
5 Ronnie South Arkansas
7 Ray Phillips Michigan
7 Eugene Howard Langston
8 Dick Southland Notre Dame
9 Joe Blake Tulsa
10 Doug Robinson Iowa State
11 Bennie Blocker South Carolina State
12 John Beck San Diego State
13 K.O. Trepanier Montana State
14 Herb Covington Memphis State
15 Wilmer Cooks Colorado
16 Elie Ghattas Ball State
17 Jim Ferguson USC

1967
Rnd Name College Note
1 Leslie Kelly Alabama
2 Bo Burris Houston
2 John Gilliam South Carolina State
2 David Rowe Penn State
3 Del Williams Florida State
3 Ben Hart Oklahoma
4 Ron Widby Tennessee
4 Bill Carr Florida
4 Tom Stangle Dayton
5 Don McCall USC
5 John Douglas Texas Southern
6 George Harvey Kansas
6 Bo Wood North Carolina
7 Gary Hertzog Willamette
7 Bob McKelvey Northwestern
8 Sam Harris Colorado
8 Barry Siler Albion
9 Tim Lavens Idaho
9 Eugene Ross Oklahoma
10 Charlie Brown Missouri
10 Roosevelt Robertson North Carolina College
11 Jim Benson Florida
11 Bernard Corbin Alabama A&M
12 Ronnie Pack Texas Tech
12 John Robinson Tennessee A&I
13 Bill Stetz Boston College
13 Gary Grossnickle Missouri
14 Jim Hester North Dakota
14 George Stetter Virginia
15 John Snow Wake Forest
15 Darrell Johnson Lamar Tech
16 Marcus Rhoden Mississippi State
16 Bruce Cortez Parsons
17 Dan Abramowicz Xavier
17 Billy Bob Stewart Southern Methodist
17 Jimmy Walker Providence
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Ignoring recent drafts, we do seem to have had some good drafts. Players, may not have ended up playing well for us, but did have decent or better carreers. The really early drafts, are before my time, so I may have overlooked some solid but not superstar caliber players.


2001
Rnd Name College Note
1 Deuce McAllister Missisippi
3 Kenny Smith Alabama 2000
Rnd Name College Note
2 Darren Howard Kansas State
4 Terrelle Smith Arizona State
5 Chad Morton USC
6 Marc Bulger West Virginia

1999
Rnd Name College Note
1 Ricky Williams Texas

1998
Rnd Name College Note
1 Kyle Turley San Diego State
2 Cameron Cleeland Washington

1997
Rnd Name College Note
1 Chris Naeole Colorado

1996
Rnd Name College Note
5 Tom Ackerman Eastern Washington

1995
Rnd Name College Note
1 Mark Fields Washington State
2 Ray Zellars Notre Dame

1994
Rnd Name College Note
1 Joe Johnson Louisville
2 Mario Bates Arizona State
3 Winfred Tubbs Texas

1993
Rnd Name College Note
1 Willie Roaf Louisiana Tech
1 Irv Smith Notre Dame
4 Lorenzo Neal Fresno State
4 Derek Brown Nebraska
5 Tyrone Hughes Nebraska

1992
Rnd Name College Note
1 Vaughn Dunbar Indiana
5 Torrance Small Alcorn State

1991
Rnd Name College Note
6 Fred McAfee Mississippi College

1990
Rnd Name College Note
1 Renaldo Turnbull West Virginia
2 Vince Buck Central State (OH)
3 Joel Smeenge Western Michigan

1989
Rnd Name College Note
1 Wayne Martin Arkansas
2 Robert Massey North Carolina Central

1988
Rnd Name College Note
1 Craig Heyward Pittsburgh

1987
Rnd Name College Note
7 Gene Atkins Florida A&M
8 Toi Cook Stanford

1986
Rnd Name College Note
1 Jim Dombrowski Virginia
2 Dalton Hilliard Louisiana State
3 Rueben Mayes Washington State
3 Pat Swilling Georgia Tech

1985
Rnd Name College Note
3 Jack DelRio USC
7 Eric Martin Louisiana State

1984
Rnd Name College Note
1 Vaughan Johnson North Carolina State
2 Mel Gray Purdue
4 Joel Hilgenberg Iowa

1983
Rnd Name College Note

1982
Rnd Name College Note
4 Morten Andersen Michigan State

1981
Rnd Name College Note
1 Dave Wilson Illinois suplapmental
1 George Rogers South Carolina
2 Ricky Jackson Pittsburgh
3 Frank Warren Auburn
3 Hoby Brenner USC
10 Hokie Gajan Louisiana State

1980
Rnd Name College Note
1 Stan Brock Colorado
2 Dave Waymer Notre Dame

1979
Rnd Name College Note
1 Russell Erxleben Texas Not a good pick, just infamous!
2 Reggie Mathis Oklahoma

1978
Rnd Name College Note
1 Wes Chandler Florida

1977
Rnd Name College Note
10 Rafael Septien Southwestern Louisiana

1976
Rnd Name College Note
1 Chuck Muncie California
2 Tony Galbreath Missouri

1975
Rnd Name College Note
1 Larry Burton Purdue
3 Elois Grooms Tennessee Tech

1974
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1973
Rnd Name College Note
2 Derland Moore Oklahoma

1972
Rnd Name College Note
3 Tom Myers Syracuse

1971
Rnd Name College Note
1 Archie Manning Mississippi

1970
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1969
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1968
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1967
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17 Dan Abramowicz Xavier

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2 Jumpy Geathers Wichita State
3 Terry Hoage Georgia

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I would have to say 1981........George Rodgers, Ricky Jackson and Hokie
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I would have to say 1981........George Rodgers, Ricky Jackson and Hokie
I agree with ya Cajun, Hokie was the man and Hoby was there too.
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Yeah '81 rocked, I was just a kid but my dad was pumped after that draft...Looking back it seems the Saints have a nack for spotting talent and giving it away. Marc Bulger, Bary Word, Jack Del Rio
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