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Old 03-21-2006, 09:24 AM   #21
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- The QB panics and instead of using the pocket he tries to flee out of it.

Brees is not great by any means, but he'll brings something to the table we have not seen in years at the QB position: brains.
Agreed, I'm thrilled to have a guy that won't be backing out of his protection on every pass play.
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Old 03-21-2006, 09:53 AM   #22
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Brooks at times made the OL look bad because he cannot read a defense these guys cannot block forever. Bouman was a bust but did you notice the OL did not look as bad when he played because he got the ball out of his hands faster than brooks.
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:11 AM   #23
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Lil' things Brees (if healthy) Will Introduce This Year We Haven't Seen In Ages:

1.- Screen pass
2.- Unpredictability.
3.- Passes thrown in front of the receivers
4.- Quick decisions
5.- 3-step drops

Come on TR....give AB some credit, I thought he accomplished #2 quite nicely, we never knew what he was going to screw up next.
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:09 AM   #24
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Breesesus Christ already.... I'm not taking up for Brooks.... I'm just saying that many of the problems that Brooks had last year with his offensive line are not being fixed and will continue to hamper Brees in the same manner. Believe me, I glad Brooks is gone. Some of ya'll hate Brooks so bad that you are missing the point completely. Seriously... you have me laughing so hard it hurts.
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:18 AM   #25
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Just don't mention his name again around here buddy, LOL

--maybe this: if Payton corectly estimated and implemented the need for change at QB correctly, then let's think he probably understands the OL issues as well and will do the same. Six weeks before the draft with plenty of FA lineman still out there is a little early to ring the fire alarm.
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:18 AM   #26
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Breesesus Christ already.... I'm not taking up for Brooks....
This is akin to someone having a gun in your back and the other hand in your pocket, and repeatedly saying, "Really, i'm not robbing you. I'm doing you a favor. The guy around the corner might have robbed you too, so i'm not robbing you." You ARE taking up for Brooks, every time youmake up an excuse for his piss poor play. You can say you're not as many times as you like, seems the majority of the forum see it differently.
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:20 AM   #27
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Remember the OL... 3 seconds in slow motion.... I have the tapes... it is over and over the last 3 years... sure hope you guys are right but in full motion he only had a second and a half. Here hoping that brains beats out muscle.

Oh yea Kelly... all of those QB played there greatest football when they had the time to throw the ball. Fran Tarkenton would have to run for his life behind our OL the past few years. Excellent highlite reels.

Again this is not a I love Brooks thread. It is a we need a freaking offensive line thread or Brees is going to get killed. Where is the beef?

And Kelly... I'm sure Brooks's name is going to continue to be mentioned. You bring up some valid point about the offseason. I just need to know that Brees back is covered and I don't want to rely on rookies to do the majority of it.

Hey by the way... Anybody want a Brooks jersey....

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Old 03-21-2006, 11:31 AM   #28
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Breesesus Christ already.... I'm not taking up for Brooks.... I'm just saying that many of the problems that Brooks had last year with his offensive line are not being fixed and will continue to hamper Brees in the same manner. Believe me, I glad Brooks is gone. Some of ya'll hate Brooks so bad that you are missing the point completely. Seriously... you have me laughing so hard it hurts.
... you are the one that doesn't get it...

... what you don't get is that some mof those problems you saw with the line were directly related to the play of the QB:
- holding on to the ball too long
- not being able to do a 3-step drop
- not being able to throw a screen pass
- paniking and bailing out of the pocket rather than stepping into the pocket and using it
- not being able to memorize an NFL playbook, therefore making the offense that much more predictable: the Saints either handed the Ball or attempted a pass of 20+... all of these things make the job of the o-line that much harder..

... Brees can throw screens, can do 3-step drops and hit screen passes, Brees can memorize an NFL-sized playbook, and seems to use the pocket well... just those three factors alone will buy him time and keep opposing defenses back, and will make the o-line's job easier...


..and that "3 seconds in slow motion" is BS... it is blatantly false...

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Old 03-21-2006, 11:34 AM   #29
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Hey SaintWhoDi

Is that a gun in your pocket are you just trying to argue with me.

Remember, Brooks was not the only problem last year and he had to handle the ball every play no matter how bad everybody else played.

It really maginified his weaknesses while not showcasing his strengths.

Still in Brooks defense... he did have some very good seasons, own most of the QB records, had more come from behind victories 26 and is the only QB in saints history that could make a 3rd and 25 yards to go play. He has some strengths.... but his weaknesses on a very poor team easily overshadowed them.

I hope he goes to the Raiders and does great in a vertical passing game that suits him well.

Tobias - Your points are well taken. Hopefully he can do it behind our OL this season and not get killed. The saints haven't be able to run a screen since Archie Manning.

Man I hope I don't get flamed for this.... just stating facts....

Brees hopefully will remind us of Archie Manning... haveing said that Brooks owns most of Archie's records. (just a fact ok) Archie was a great QB but was terrible until we got a supporting cast. I remember him running for his life for 7 seasons. Sure he was smart, mobile and could throw the hell out of the screen pass and 5 and outs, and was a great game manager, but when it was 3rd and very long... he never made those plays because he was runnig for his life after a second and a half. He did however throw a catachable ball, completed a higher precentage of passes... for 1 to 5 yards short of the first down, for losses the the backfield and this helped his completeion percentage.

FYI FACT: Archie was the saints leading all time rusher until George Rodgers.

It wasn't until 1978 and 1979 before Archie had a break out season. I remember an important pick up that season, guard Conrad Dobler. We need a person like because we have all of the other parts that Archie had in 1978 and 1979 except the offensive line, FB Tony Galbreath and TE Henry Childs. Those two seasons were one of the greatest seasons to be a saints fan. It can happen again if Brees can stay healthy.

That my friends is the primary objective.

For you youngsters that never saw Tony Galbreath play.... he could have been a great tailback because he could run, he was fast, he had incredible moves and could make people miss and he had some of the best hands ever for a FB. Does anybody ever remember seeing a FB like him in recent years? I don't. The saints always lined up in a pro-set and nobody ever knew where they were going with the ball. It was great. Hank Stram knew what he was doing.

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