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foreverfan 03-22-2006 12:05 AM

History says draft a Left Tackle
 
History says "draft a left tackle!" While the jury is still out on Robert Gallery (2004 #2 pick), we can see that other tackles taken in the top 10 spots have paid BIG dividends for their teams. Going back to 1997 we see the following tackles chosen in the top 10 spots have all made it into the playoffs and a couple have won Superbowls:

2003 - Jordan Gross - #8 pick - Carolina Panthers: Lose Foster, lose Davis and Goings can still torch you. Who do you think he's running behind?

2002 - Levi Jones - #10 pick - Cincinnatti Bengals: Corey Dillon is a thousand yard rusher. He leaves and Rudi Johnson becomes a thousand yard rusher. Carson Palmer looks relaxed in the pocket and has a Pro-Bowl caliber season. It's easy to be relaxed in the pocket when you aren't getting sacked 60+ times a season.

2000 - Chris Samuels - #3 pick - Washington Redskins: After many seasons of mediocrity, the once proud franchise seems to be turning it around and a lot of the credit should go to the franchise tackle.

1998 - Tra Thomas - #11 pick - Philadelphia Eagles: Allright, he was a number 11 pick but that's just one off. Is there any questions that the fortunes of McNabb and the Eagles franchise turned around with the development of Deland High School's most famous football alum?

1997 - Orlando Pace - #1 pick - St. Louis Rams AND Walter Jones - #6 pick - Seattle Seahawks: One has a Superbowl ring and the other could have one in three weeks. Warner and Faulk, Hasselbeck and Alexander...who do you think is protecting these guys?

1996 - Jonathan Ogden - #4 pick - Baltimore Ravens: Cornerstone of a mediocre offense and helped Jamal Lewis to the third highest season rushing total in NFL history. Has a Superbowl ring. If the best GM in sports, Ozzie Newsome, would spend a high pick on a franchise Left Tackle, why wouldn't the Texans?

1995 - Tony Boselli - #2 pick - Jacksonville Jaguars: Helped lead an expansion team to the AFC Divisional Championship game. probably would have been the greatest of all time if career wasn't cut short by injuries (although his career was still longer than the career of the average NFL running back).

And don't forget Willie Roaf...

http://blogs.foxsports.com/FrankIrizarry/Houston_Texans

saintsrule 03-22-2006 12:26 AM

RE: History says draft a Left Tackle
 
I will be happy with who ever they get, but if they get Brick he would be the best pick.

foreverfan 03-22-2006 12:31 AM

RE: History says draft a Left Tackle
 
Drafting D'brick gets me all warm and fuzzy....

http://www.kushinda-ridgebacks.org/j...intheact1c.jpg

Err... could somebody turn the lights back out.... Thanks. FF

lonewolf 03-22-2006 05:40 AM

RE: History says draft a Left Tackle
 
f*@k history, this team has spent entirely too many high draft picks on OLine the past decade. Time to rebuild the dome patrol, then spend high picks on the OL. We can probably get Whitworth LT-LSU with our #34 pick right now.

LongTimeFan 03-22-2006 05:52 AM

RE: History says draft a Left Tackle
 
Take D'brick and everything and is all good.

saintswhodi 03-22-2006 08:37 AM

forever fan, do you live in Mississippi? Justr curious.

zachsaints52 03-22-2006 09:14 AM

Get Brick! Frachise LT, and it will be awesome to have our OT's set for a long time!

foreverfan 03-22-2006 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
forever fan, do you live in Mississippi? Justr curious.

No just "Master of BS"

saintswhodi 03-22-2006 09:47 AM

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forever fan, do you live in Mississippi? Justr curious.

No just "Master of BS"

What? lol Live in Louisiana? Or do you post on any other forums?

foreverfan 03-22-2006 09:51 AM

Did at one time but they couldn't handle The Great Cat Guru so you guys are stuck with me. Besides, this board better suits my talents... what ever they are... I really feel all warm and fuzzy... maybe I'll take another nap.

http://www.itisnet.com/jpg/netphotos...mbodia/cat.jpg

Nope Metairie LA born and raised. The did move me to ChalMetairie....err... I mean Kenner for a few years too.

gandhi1007 03-22-2006 10:05 AM

History also says our top draft choices (especially lineman) that turn out to be really great end up leaving us for other teams after a short stay. We're kinda' like a farm team for the rest of the NFL. :?

foreverfan 03-22-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007
History also says our top draft choices (especially lineman) that turn out to be really great end up leaving us for other teams after a short stay. We're kinda' like a farm team for the rest of the NFL. :?

QBs too. That's why I think Brooks will do good with the Raiders... that and does anybody really want him in the NFC South????

saintswhodi 03-22-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007
History also says our top draft choices (especially lineman) that turn out to be really great end up leaving us for other teams after a short stay. We're kinda' like a farm team for the rest of the NFL. :?

QBs too. That's why I think Brooks will do good with the Raiders... that and does anybody really want him in the NFC South????

HELL YEAH. He and Charles Grant got into a scuffle year before last after the Arizona game. I would LOVE to see AB spin into a rush on Charles Grant's side of the field 5-6 times a game. LOVE IT!! I damn sure hope the Bucs sign him.

FanNJ 03-22-2006 12:17 PM

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We're kinda' like a farm team for the rest of the NFL.
Seems like all players that leave go on to be better outside of NO.

saintswhodi 03-22-2006 12:25 PM

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We're kinda' like a farm team for the rest of the NFL.
Seems like all players that leave go on to be better outside of NO.

Not all. Tesucky Jones, Joe Johnson, Chris Naeole, Kyle Turley, to name a few.

NOLAmite 03-22-2006 12:39 PM

I think if you go by saint's draft history: we draft an overated lineman from Ohio State or Georgia

CHACHING 03-22-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FanNJ
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We're kinda' like a farm team for the rest of the NFL.
Seems like all players that leave go on to be better outside of NO.

Not all. Tesucky Jones, Joe Johnson, Chris Naeole, Kyle Turley, to name a few.

Well said whodi...don't forget Gravy Jackson and Dale"crack rock"Carter.

BooBirdSaint 03-22-2006 12:43 PM

Ricky Williams... :flush:

TheDeuce 03-22-2006 12:51 PM

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saintswhodi wrote:
FanNJ wrote:
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We're kinda' like a farm team for the rest of the NFL.


Seems like all players that leave go on to be better outside of NO.


Not all. Tesucky Jones, Joe Johnson, Chris Naeole, Kyle Turley, to name a few.
Well said whodi...don't forget Gravy Jackson and Dale"crack rock"Carter.
And don't forget that La'Roi never had a better season than when he was with the Saints. He never had the same kind of production in Dallas as he did here...

FanNJ 03-22-2006 12:53 PM

I'll concede some of them, Turley's injury limited him severly, but there is along list of those who did Grady Jackson, Sam Mills, Morten Anderson, Rickey Williams (Minus the Drug Year and head case issues which still persist) Glover, Sammy Knight, Chad Morten, Jake Delhome just off the top of my head.

saintswhodi 03-22-2006 03:29 PM

The point was, it's not "ALL" as was stated. And whether due to injury or whatever, some of those guys were bums after they left New Orleans.

D_it_up 03-22-2006 08:29 PM

Is it just me, or is that cat thing a bit disturbing?

GoldRush26 03-22-2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
The point was, it's not "ALL" as was stated. And whether due to injury or whatever, some of those guys were bums after they left New Orleans.

Whodi is right...in any case, just because someone does well outiside of N.O. doesn't necessarily mean that we should've kept them.

And keeping with the topic....LTs have been amongst the most solid perfxormers of the first round picks taken in general...not just the top 10. D'Brick and JB would give us the best young tackle tandem in the league.

9thWardDesire 03-23-2006 08:04 AM

[quote="saintswhodi"][quote="FanNJ"][quote]
We [quote] Don't forget about "Toilet" Cook, Renaldo Turnbull-ish, Doug Brien, Danny Wuerffel, Alex "Lame Duck" Molden. :roll:

saintswhodi 03-23-2006 10:26 AM

[quote="9thWardDesire"][quote="saintswhodi"][quote="FanNJ"][quote]
We
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Don't forget about "Toilet" Cook, Renaldo Turnbull-ish, Doug Brien, Danny Wuerffel, Alex "Lame Duck" Molden. :roll:
True dat.

foreverfan 03-23-2006 10:29 AM

At the risk of getting flammed.... does anybody think Brooks will be better in a Raiders uniform?

gandhi1007 03-23-2006 10:32 AM

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At the risk of getting flammed.... does anybody think Brooks will be better in a Raiders uniform?

He would be better in an orange reflector vest & a "Waste Management" uniform. :D

CHACHING 03-23-2006 10:34 AM

How bout a Burger King uniform?

gandhi1007 03-23-2006 10:36 AM

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How bout a Burger King uniform?

I wouldn't want his dumb a** making my burger. :lol:

foreverfan 03-23-2006 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan
At the risk of getting flammed.... does anybody think Brooks will be better in a Raiders uniform?

He would be better in an orange reflector vest & a "Waste Management" uniform. :D

Orange? At first I thought you meant he should be in Orleans Parish Prison.


http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/new-toture6.jpg

CHACHING 03-23-2006 10:38 AM

True dat...hahahahahaha...

foreverfan 03-23-2006 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan
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Originally Posted by gandhi1007
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Originally Posted by foreverfan
At the risk of getting flammed.... does anybody think Brooks will be better in a Raiders uniform?

He would be better in an orange reflector vest & a "Waste Management" uniform. :D

Orange? At first I thought you meant he should be in Orleans Parish Prison.


http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/new-toture6.jpg

Worth repeating.

foreverfan 03-24-2006 12:18 AM

Don't we need a starting left..??? err... a left... errrrr... what was I talking about???? Sorry I forgot what the thread was about.

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/blog...s/taranice.jpg

Oh yea... we need a tackle.... Where does the line form?


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