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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; ----------was the website out to lunch for a while or was it just me? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i would like to see more moves myself. i think getting a veteran center would be wise whether getting mangold or not. i also think ...

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Old 03-23-2006, 12:44 PM   #11
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----------was the website out to lunch for a while or was it just me?

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i would like to see more moves myself. i think getting a veteran center would be wise whether getting mangold or not. i also think vanderjagt would be money well spent. edinger or josh brown would be upgrades imo also. carney really looks like he is at a distinct falling off point in his career.

that said, i have to be patient and see what they can do this year. i liked the quote from payton where he named the players the giants picked up after the draft that were components to their superbowl year. i would rather more quality than quantity in the acquisitions. even with gibbs there now, snyder/washington seems to recklessly throw money at players. perpetual salary cap problems can severely limit the competitiveness of teams. remember just a few years ago when the the titans were elite contenders? nothing has changed with the coaching. i count jeff fisher as one of the best in the league. what bit them was the salary cap. they have been purging for a few years now and are just starting to see the light of day to get back competitive capwise. you may ask how in the world can the pats keep letting people go? cuz they refuse to go to salary cap hell is why.

bottomline, let's see the results this year before getting too antsy. then we can ***** n moan this time next year if we don't like it. i am anticipating we will tho. i'm not even so concerned about the win/loss record as i am the team play. fisher's teams and cowher's (even before the SB) teams, whether they were very talented or less so they always come out prepared and ready to play hard. that is what drove me nuts about the haz era- lots of talent, always underachieving, erratic, highly penalized, beating the superbowl champs twice one year and also lose to the very worst teams in the league. i am ready to see some solid football play with players that have attitudes and commitment like brees exhibits. the wins and losses will fall into place if you have that.
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Old 03-23-2006, 12:48 PM   #12
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I understand everyone's points. I just feel that with the acquisition of Brees we would be looking for some top notch blockers or something....ANYTHING!! I dunno...I guess I am being a little eager. I just want my Saints to win and in times like these....doldrums tend to make me nervous.
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:05 PM   #13
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that said, i have to be patient and see what they can do this year. i liked the quote from payton where he named the players the giants picked up after the draft that were components to their superbowl year. i would rather more quality than quantity in the acquisitions. even with gibbs there now, snyder/washington seems to recklessly throw money at players. perpetual salary cap problems can severely limit the competitiveness of teams. remember just a few years ago when the the titans were elite contenders? nothing has changed with the coaching. i count jeff fisher as one of the best in the league. what bit them was the salary cap. they have been purging for a few years now and are just starting to see the light of day to get back competitive capwise. you may ask how in the world can the pats keep letting people go? cuz they refuse to go to salary cap hell is why.

bottomline, let's see the results this year before getting too antsy. then we can ***** n moan this time next year if we don't like it. i am anticipating we will tho. i'm not even so concerned about the win/loss record as i am the team play. fisher's teams and cowher's (even before the SB) teams, whether they were very talented or less so they always come out prepared and ready to play hard. that is what drove me nuts about the haz era- lots of talent, always underachieving, erratic, highly penalized, beating the superbowl champs twice one year and also lose to the very worst teams in the league. i am ready to see some solid football play with players that have attitudes and commitment like brees exhibits. the wins and losses will fall into place if you have that.
Nice post LKelley. I agree with the salary cap statement. Although I wish we had gotten some of the bigger name players like Witherspoon, I also think that if anything positive can be said out of not overpaying for players like WW (like the Rams did), it's that we never seem to be in cap trouble. It's one thing to get big name players by just throwing too much money at them, but I think it's another thing to build a solid franchise by making smart, intelligent, well-thought out signings that will fit your club. That's why I think the Saints have done a good job this offseason. They have signed several players who aren't exactly the biggest names, but have proven that they can play and at the same time aren't asking for more money than they're worth. Michael Bennett for example is a Pro Bowler who signed for 1.5 mil a year. We signed Anthony Simmons, a former first-round pick, and a guy who when healthy, has Pro Bowl talent, for 1.5 mil a year. We got Fujita for cheap. We re-signed Whitehead for cheap. While these guys aren't the biggest names, a team doesn't have to be filled with big names, as long as they're dependable and hard-working and driven.
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Letting Bentley go for NOTHING still eats at me, other than that, it's been a pretty good off-season. Nice signings. If we TRADE for Faine though, I am gonna be doing some cussin'.
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:22 PM   #15
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Letting Bentley go for NOTHING still eats at me
Agreed. I believe he was willing to work out a long term deal.
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:24 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Letting Bentley go for NOTHING still eats at me, other than that, it's been a pretty good off-season. Nice signings. If we TRADE for Faine though, I am gonna be doing some cussin'.
Me too. I would like to get Mangold in the draft. I know he's a rookie, but he's very smart & NFL ready.
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