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FatiusJeebs 03-24-2006 12:42 PM

Javon Walker
 
I know a thread on this guy was started a while back but I just read an article on how desperate this guy is to leave Green Bay. What do you guys think? I think with that kind of motivation to leave GB....the team that picks him will probably get a guy who is killin to prove he still has it as well as stick it to the Packers. Should we try?!?!?!?

I say yes. :cool3:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ker/index.html

saintswhodi 03-24-2006 01:05 PM

Definitely. I said we should have tried last year before we gave Joe a new deal, and Javon wanted out. Here we are a year later, in almost the same situation, except we had given Joe a new contract. Get this guy. He will be the #1 to replace Joe, and Stall can stay a number two, and get better at that.

FatiusJeebs 03-24-2006 01:26 PM

Man I would love for this to happen. Look at this formation

Horn, Stall, and Walker Lineup outside....Hilton at TE and Deuce/Bennet......with Brees at QB?!?!?!?!?

HELLO....LOOOOOOMIIIISSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! What are you waiting for?!?!?!?!? :cursing:

26DEUCE26 03-25-2006 02:10 PM

I saw on espn.com that this might be a draft day move. We get Walker & GB's # 5 pick for our #2.

D_it_up 03-25-2006 03:07 PM

I'm all for this....Adding a receiver with Javon Walker's ability (even after coming off of injury) is something that cannot be overlooked. He'd definitely be a more than capable replacement for Joe Horn who could be cut after this season if he doesn't stay healthy. Make the trade and sign Walker to a contract extension.

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orn, Stall, and Walker Lineup outside....Hilton at TE and Deuce/Bennet......with Brees at QB?!?!?!?!?
Imagine the possibilities.

LongTimeFan 03-25-2006 10:11 PM

You guys know I want him, let's sign him..

TheDeuce 03-25-2006 10:58 PM

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I saw on espn.com that this might be a draft day move. We get Walker & GB's # 5 pick for our #2.
I wouldn't mind doing this. We'd get a talented WR and still have a top 5 pick, but I think that Brick will be gone before then. I still wouldn't mind taking Hawk, but I would like to see Walker, the #5, and a 3rd rounder for our #2. But I doubt we make this trade.

hagan714 03-26-2006 09:34 AM

My question is who are the packers after? D Brick? Mario? The most likely move would be up to 1 would think. Bush would fill there needs more with just a few extra picks thrown in. Plus it would help the offensive weapon they would be losing. I will be surprised to see walker traded.

LongTimeFan 03-26-2006 09:45 AM

I want Walker but I want D'Brick there for sure, having both of them would be huge.
A tear from my eye just thinking about it.

hagan714 03-26-2006 10:18 AM

:bananajoy:

LivnaLieTimay 03-26-2006 01:57 PM

Walker would be a great pickup but we would need more than just Walker and GB's first rounder for the 2nd pick in the draft. Plus, I'd rather find a team we could get more picks from to fill some major holes in our team.

LongTimeFan 03-26-2006 02:11 PM

Walker won't come cheap as some might think, this guy is a very good WR who can help take a team to the next step, I think adding him to our lineup with our already good WR's is a big plus, but we need a good OL first to make this work.

AllSaints 03-27-2006 03:07 PM

Greenbay dosent need a QB they could probly get Williams at #5 dosent make since.? But hey if they wanta do it alright.. ! !!

blake6900 03-27-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeFan
Walker won't come cheap as some might think, this guy is a very good WR who can help take a team to the next step, I think adding him to our lineup with our already good WR's is a big plus, but we need a good OL first to make this work.

He comes at too hefty a price if you ask me. This guy has had one good year and people are willing to sell the farm to get him. Has anyone checked the Saints offensive line lately? Or the cornerbacks? I've never understood why people are willing to throw millions of dollars at wide receivers when their team has such other pressing needs.
There's a reason why there are so many wide outs available in free agency. There's also a reason why quality down lineman aren't. Walker is a good WR but he's not Steve Smith. I'd pay big money for Steve Smith because he's proven he can carry a team. Walker hasn't...not yet, anyway. Any if he can't block a defensive end then I'll pass.

LKelley67 03-28-2006 07:25 AM

Milwaukee paper yesterday-

With one year left on his deal, Walker would like to be traded or cut, but so far the Packers have not entertained the idea of parting ways with him, in part because it would set a bad precedent for other players unhappy with their contracts and in part because his value has decreased because he's still rehabilitating from the knee injury.

At least one AFC team has started doing homework on Walker, probably to see if it's worth making the Packers a trade offer, but it's unclear whether the Packers will even consider dealing him.

Thompson didn't dispute that teams have showed interest in Walker, but he said it stemmed from the receiver's recent public comments and not the Packers shopping him. He would not say whether the Packers would ever consider trading Walker, who sat out of off-season workouts last year in protest of his contract.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=411220

BlackandBlue 03-28-2006 07:51 AM

guy has one good year, and everyone is ready to blow him before his plane touches down. i don't get it.

saintswhodi 03-28-2006 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
guy has one good year, and everyone is ready to blow him before his plane touches down. i don't get it.

Actually, the guy has improved every year he has been in the league, like a WR is supposed to. And when he went to the pro bowl, he was STILL playing behind Ferguson and Driver until he just proved how good he was and got on the field. I'd rather have a stud WR heading up than taking another Az Hakim. But that's just me.

BlackandBlue 03-28-2006 11:02 AM

two words- Marcus Robinson

saintswhodi 03-28-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
two words- Marcus Robinson

One word-sucks. And? Don't see how that is remotely related to Javon Walker, but okay man. 8)

Javon Walker equaled Robinson's best year TD wise in his second season, as the third option. Not even close.

foreverfan 03-28-2006 11:27 AM

Would be a great fit here. Doubt this trade will happen. Maybe another Horn down the road if he is over the injury. Stallworth will never be a true #1 reciever so we could surely use him. How long does his current contract run? I wouldn't want to sign the guy and he be a FA next year.

BlackandBlue 03-28-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
two words- Marcus Robinson

One word-sucks. And? Don't see how that is remotely related to Javon Walker, but okay man. 8)

very similar receivers.

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Javon Walker equaled Robinson's best year TD wise in his second season, as the third option. Not even close.

and that would have been Robinson's third year, which he also posted 1400 receiving yards, and has not broken 1000 since. and that was the year that ferguson was dropped from the starting lineup, in favor of Walker. so don't even try it. :P

saintswhodi 03-28-2006 01:18 PM

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very similar receivers.
Not even close. Walker is a deep threat, Robinson is a jump ball receiver.

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and that would have been Robinson's third year, which he also posted 1400 receiving yards, and has not broken 1000 since. and that was the year that ferguson was dropped from the starting lineup, in favor of Walker. so don't even try it.
I think you missed the boat, in Walker's SECOND year as the THIRD option, he equaled Robinson's best TD year EVER. In Walker's THIRD year, he improved in ALL categories and had MORE TDs than Robinson ever had in any season. Walker DID NOT replace Ferguson in his second season, the season in which he had 9 TDs as the THIRD option. So apart from the fact they are both WRs, nothing similar at all. But, we could just rely on HOrn until he's 40. :wink:

BlackandBlue 03-28-2006 01:40 PM

yes he did- ferguson went down late in the season with an injury, and never took his spot back from walker. i'll give you the speed factor, i believe walker runs a 4.3/40, whereas Robinson runs a 4.5/40, if you'll suck down that ego for a moment and explain to me why i should be excited about a wide receiver that had one good year. :P

saintswhodi 03-28-2006 02:03 PM

So, until Ferguson's injury, Walker was not the starter right? RIGHT?!?!?! lol Leave the BNB semantics out. :P At any rate, Walker is a young receiver who is already playing at a pro bowl level. We have any of those any more? Joe doesn't even fit into that category. He is also a deep threat, but not just cause of his speed, also cause of his size, and you KNOW he can catch the ball if he takes Favre's zingers. He would also instantly become the best receiver on our team. What looks better, Walker, Horn, Stallworth, or Horn, Stallworth, Hakim or Henderson?

Oh, and Walker only started 3 games in his second season. So it's not like Ferguson getting hurt did too much to change the fact he was the third receiver. AND, two of the three starts came within the first 4 games of the season. He didn't start again after week 4, until week 17, last game of the season. So, leave that wacky Robinson comparison out of this convo, and look beyond "he only had one good year." That may have something to do with him getting injured pal. 8)

NFLDiva 03-28-2006 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Leave the BNB semantics out. :P


Please don't.....They amuse me :red:

BrooksMustGo 03-28-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLDiva
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Leave the BNB semantics out. :P


Please don't.....They amuse me :red:

Now that's funny.

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Packers | Team will not trade J. Walker
Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:11:26 -0800

ESPNews reports the Green Bay Packers will not trade WR Javon Walker.
I'm bringing the rain to this little parade I guess. Speculate away, but keep your BP down everyone. Favre needs someone to throw to.

saintswhodi 03-28-2006 03:12 PM

Um, somebody better tell Denver:

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Broncos have assets for dealing
Denver's extra picks could lead to trade for Packers' Walker

Javon WalkerSTORY TOOLS
Email this story | Print By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
March 28, 2006
ORLANDO, Fla. - Armed with extra draft picks in the first and fourth rounds of the April draft, the Denver Broncos are searching for potential deals.
Two sources in the league said Monday that Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has made informal inquiries about Green Bay Packers receiver Javon Walker. Those discussions have included former Packers coach Mike Sherman, who is now on the Houston Texans staff.

Shanahan could not be reached for comment.

Walker, who publicly has threatened to retire instead of play for the Packers again, is under contract to Green Bay for the 2006 season, during which he is scheduled to count $1,165,000 against the salary cap.

Packers general manager Ted Thompson said he has "received inquiries" about Walker and would listen to any proposed deals. Thompson has not publicly given Walker permission to seek a trade on his own. The fifth-year veteran is coming off surgery to repair the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. Walker was injured in the Packers' 2005 opener and underwent surgery in mid-September.

He is unhappy with his contract - he's in the final year of a $6.7 million deal he signed in 2002 - and held out of Green Bay's minicamps last season in search of a new deal. He returned to the team for training camp and was injured against the Detroit Lions.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...576109,00.html
Walker had 1,382 receiving yards and 14 touchdowns in 2004.


saintswhodi 03-28-2006 03:16 PM

I guess somebody better tell Packers GM Ted Thompson too:

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Thompson didn't dispute that teams have showed interest in Walker, but he said it stemmed from the receiver's recent public comments and not the Packers shopping him. He would not say whether the Packers would ever consider trading Walker, who sat out of off-season workouts last year in protest of his contract.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=411220

So is it okay if we continue discussing getting Walker now? :wink:

BlackandBlue 03-28-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Joe doesn't even fit into that category.

oh jesus, Joe didn't fit that description when he first came here.

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
He is also a deep threat, but not just cause of his speed, also cause of his size

yes, which is the reason i threw out the Robinson comparison. Lessee, Walker is 6'3" and has had one pro-bowl caliber season.....who else is 6'3" and had a pro-bowl season......oh yeah, Robinson.

as far as him instantly becoming the best receiver on this team, i'll with-hold any further judgement, until i see some type of proof, outside of the saintswhodi stamp of approval.

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and look beyond "he only had one good year."
No, I refuse....outside of a handful of these receivers, I don't trust any of them. :P

BlackandBlue 03-28-2006 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLDiva
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Leave the BNB semantics out. :P


Please don't.....They amuse me :red:

are you stalking me?

saintswhodi 03-28-2006 05:29 PM

LMAO!! Come on BNB. You say Walker is faster but then turn around and again say he is similar to Robinson cause of height? SLOWER is not similar. A better receiver is not similar. I wonder if Peyton and Brooks are close to the same height. Are they similar outside of that? Hell no. Same with Walker and Robinson.

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No, I refuse....outside of a handful of these receivers, I don't trust any of them.
Sad, sad fellow. :P

BlackandBlue 03-28-2006 05:55 PM

why should i trust them? how many times have i seen a receiver put up steller numbers in one season, only to never even come close to hitting those numbers again??? you know what i'm talking about.....

they're both 6'3", and they both play receiver......wouldn't that be similar??? I didn't say they were twins......comparing a head coach and a QB does nothing for you right now, tsk tsk. :P

LongTimeFan 03-28-2006 06:45 PM

I heard tonight on ESPN News that Walker will not be traded, he will be a Packer next year so might at well forget about him, he's one guy I wanted signed by N.O

saintswhodi 03-28-2006 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
why should i trust them? how many times have i seen a receiver put up steller numbers in one season, only to never even come close to hitting those numbers again??? you know what i'm talking about.....

they're both 6'3", and they both play receiver......wouldn't that be similar??? I didn't say they were twins......comparing a head coach and a QB does nothing for you right now, tsk tsk. :P

hahaha. You're getting ornery in your old ago. PEYTON is the QB of the Colts. PAYTON is our head coach. I was comparing two QBs of similar height, since you wanna paint two WRs of similar height to being the same guy. Does that follow for all positions?

And I am sorry WRs have burned you BNB. I didn't know it was so personal. Maybe some acupuncture or just punching someone can help. Walker would be a GOOD pick-up. When have I lead you wrong before? :P

BlackandBlue 03-28-2006 07:55 PM

woof. been a rough day today, guess i was feeling combative. :bartinator:

still leary...... :brood:

NFLDiva 03-29-2006 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
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Originally Posted by NFLDiva
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Leave the BNB semantics out. :P


Please don't.....They amuse me :red:

are you stalking me?


Yes Dammit :D

And if you would open the damn curtains, I could see better from this tree outside your window 8) 8) 8)

Stalking you...ROFL.....Baby, you wish :wink:

BlackandBlue 03-29-2006 08:57 AM

Baby? thought i told you i prefered "Big Daddy Long Stroke". ;)

NFLDiva 03-29-2006 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
Baby? thought i told you i prefered "Big Daddy Long Stroke". ;)


Well I am sure thats what the girls you have on the payroll call you, but remember who you are talking to baby :red:

BlackandBlue 03-29-2006 09:04 AM

you love toying with my emotions, don't you.

NFLDiva 03-29-2006 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
you love toying with my emotions, don't you.


As much as humanly possible...... 8)


You will be broken :red:


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