Charles Grant Trade

ScottyRo · 04-11-2006, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by BlackandBlue

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

Originally Posted by BlackandBlue

pull that trigger

I'm with you. Giving up a good player to get an elite player is a no brainer to me.

thank you. it's good to see some logic from time to time. some of you overrate Grant just a tad.

Maybe some have over-rated Grant's abilities, but I wasn't all that enamored with Walker before his injury. Now? How many offensive staters do we need coming off of major injuries? Regardless, I just don't know that even without his injuries that we take Walker and put him in the mix with Horn, Stallworth and Henderson when we know we have a good DE in Grant. ("Good" is not an over-rating.)

BrooksMustGo · 04-11-2006, 10:04 AM

He is good, but we ought to balance his goodness. He's a good to very good pass rusher when he's playing well. He's average against the run.

NEXTPROBOWLER · 04-11-2006, 10:23 AM

if we trade grant for walker, we need a draft pick too, and i think that shows everyone we are takin super mario

saintswhodi · 04-11-2006, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

He is good, but we ought to balance his goodness. He's a good to very good pass rusher when he's playing well. He's average against the run.

Um, didn't he have like 78 tackles year before last? That is a HUGE number for a DE. I think some of ya'll underappreciate a guy who the two seasons prior to last year, had over 20 sacks, was the tackle leader on the defensive line, and beat out most of our LBs, and was asked to play DT on passing downs this season with NO space eater next to him, as well as facing constant double teams. Give me a break.

BlackandBlue · 04-11-2006, 11:11 AM

ScottyRo · 04-11-2006, 11:22 AM

Also, maybe I remembe wrong but it seems like Walker has had only one good year in his career and he immediately began hold out talk and such. One elite year does not make him an elite player. I'd still rather have Grant.

jrmllb · 04-11-2006, 11:44 AM

pull the trigger on that deal, Javon for Grant as long as we dont lose a draft pick if we give up one but get one back I'm ok with it

xan · 04-11-2006, 02:35 PM

Yeah, pull the trigger, shoot yourself in the foot. Stupid trade, a healthy, very good player for a petulant, severely injured one year wonder.

FanNJ · 04-11-2006, 02:55 PM

Please tell me what Walker brings to this team. He was not the second comming of Stearling Sharpe in Green Bay.

Grant is by no means lazy and is a very solid Defensive end. He plays with emotion is always around the ball and follows plays. Watch some game film and you'll see that.

This is an idiotic trade. Walker is no better than Stallworth, and Donte knows the sytem and is faster NO way on this trade

Boogro · 04-11-2006, 03:21 PM

I'd say go for the trade. I'd take Walker in heartbeat and draft williams. Our recievers would upgrade and so will our D-line.

Offensively, Horn gets the bulk of the double teams as did Walker for one year and was solid the year before that which was only his second year. With Horn, Walker, and Stallworth you can't name a better recieve corps than that. Walker is also big and physical and could get YAC. Yeah, he got injured. So, did Horn Stallworth, Brees, McAllister, Bennett and just about every tight end we have. One injury doesn't make a man injury prone.

Defensively, we would upgrade by getting Williams, a freak such as Peppers. With Williams and Smith, we would have one of the best DE tandems in the league. Sounds good to me.

04-11-2006, 09:32 AM	#11
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Originally Posted by BlackandBlue Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo Originally Posted by BlackandBlue pull that trigger I'm with you. Giving up a good player to get an elite player is a no brainer to me. thank you. it's good to see some logic from time to time. some of you overrate Grant just a tad. Maybe some have over-rated Grant's abilities, but I wasn't all that enamored with Walker before his injury. Now? How many offensive staters do we need coming off of major injuries? Regardless, I just don't know that even without his injuries that we take Walker and put him in the mix with Horn, Stallworth and Henderson when we know we have a good DE in Grant. ("Good" is not an over-rating.)

04-11-2006, 10:55 AM	#14
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo He is good, but we ought to balance his goodness. He's a good to very good pass rusher when he's playing well. He's average against the run. Um, didn't he have like 78 tackles year before last? That is a HUGE number for a DE. I think some of ya'll underappreciate a guy who the two seasons prior to last year, had over 20 sacks, was the tackle leader on the defensive line, and beat out most of our LBs, and was asked to play DT on passing downs this season with NO space eater next to him, as well as facing constant double teams. Give me a break.

04-11-2006, 02:55 PM	#19
FanNJ 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 324	Please tell me what Walker brings to this team. He was not the second comming of Stearling Sharpe in Green Bay. Grant is by no means lazy and is a very solid Defensive end. He plays with emotion is always around the ball and follows plays. Watch some game film and you'll see that. This is an idiotic trade. Walker is no better than Stallworth, and Donte knows the sytem and is faster NO way on this trade
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04-11-2006, 10:04 AM	#12
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	He is good, but we ought to balance his goodness. He's a good to very good pass rusher when he's playing well. He's average against the run.

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NEXTPROBOWLER 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 269	if we trade grant for walker, we need a draft pick too, and i think that shows everyone we are takin super mario

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04-11-2006, 11:22 AM	#16
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Also, maybe I remembe wrong but it seems like Walker has had only one good year in his career and he immediately began hold out talk and such. One elite year does not make him an elite player. I'd still rather have Grant.

04-11-2006, 11:44 AM	#17
jrmllb 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Posts: 665	pull the trigger on that deal, Javon for Grant as long as we dont lose a draft pick if we give up one but get one back I'm ok with it

04-11-2006, 02:35 PM	#18
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	Yeah, pull the trigger, shoot yourself in the foot. Stupid trade, a healthy, very good player for a petulant, severely injured one year wonder.

04-11-2006, 03:21 PM	#20
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	I'd say go for the trade. I'd take Walker in heartbeat and draft williams. Our recievers would upgrade and so will our D-line. Offensively, Horn gets the bulk of the double teams as did Walker for one year and was solid the year before that which was only his second year. With Horn, Walker, and Stallworth you can't name a better recieve corps than that. Walker is also big and physical and could get YAC. Yeah, he got injured. So, did Horn Stallworth, Brees, McAllister, Bennett and just about every tight end we have. One injury doesn't make a man injury prone. Defensively, we would upgrade by getting Williams, a freak such as Peppers. With Williams and Smith, we would have one of the best DE tandems in the league. Sounds good to me.