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Old 04-12-2006, 03:31 AM   #1
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Chat with Scouts Inc.'s Todd McShay about the NFL Draft

Todd McShay


Welcome to The Show! On Tuesday, will stop by to talk NFL Draft. He's got the skinny on all the top college prospects and what each NFL team is looking for.
Send in your NFL Draft questions and comments now and join Todd in The Show on Tuesday at 1 p.m. ET!

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Todd McShay: Less than three weeks to go before the 2006 NFL draft. I can't remember a draft with so much uncertainty near the top of the board this late in the process. If nothing else, it makes for good debate. Let's roll...




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Brian (Norman): What's the earliest Davin Joseph can go?

Todd McShay: Joseph is one of three top OG prospects in this year's class -- USC's T. Lutui and Georgia's M Jean-Gilles. I think all three will come off the board in Round 2, and there's an outside chance that Joseph could sneak into the last few picks of the first round -- possibly to Indy or Seattle.


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Anthony (Raleigh): Where's Manny Lawson and John McCargo get picked in the draft?

Todd McShay: Both Lawson and McCargo are skyrocketting up the board following impressive post-season showings. I think Lawson will get drafted in the second-half of the first round after he bulkeed up to 241 pounds and still ran a 4.49 forty. McCargo is bunched in with a group of four or five second-round DT's.


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Dustin (Albuquerque, NM): Do you agree with most experts and think the Chiefs will go with a cornerback with there first pick (if so, any names)? And how do they deal with their QB situation? Trent Green isn't getting any younger, and their backups (Damon Huard and James Kilian) aren't real solutions.

Todd McShay: I see the Chiefs drafting the best available WR or CB with the 20th pick. OSU WR Santonio Holmes would be a great value, as would CB's such as Clemson's Tye Hill and South Carolina's Jonathan Joseph.


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Zander (LA): In every mock I see the 49ers taking Davis or Huff? Any other real possibilities for Nolan's team?

Todd McShay: I agree with Davis and Hawk as the best two fits. If you're looking for another possibility, Oregon NT Haloti Ngata would be a viable option. Don't be surprised if the 49ers take advantage of all the interest in Davis. If they trade down to a team like the Cardinals at No. 10, Ngata would be a good value and fit in the middle of the 3-4 defense.


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Gregg, New York : With the addition of cornerbacks in the offseason, a clear need, where do you see the Giants going in the draft? I would think Linebacker continues to be the priority but a quality back-up to Tiki would not hurt either?

Todd McShay: You're right on the mark, Gregg. I think the Giants will target the best available LB and some possibilities include Iowa's Chad Greenway, OSU's Bobby Carpenter and Alabama's DeMeco Ryans. However, if a top back such as Memphis' DeAngelo WIlliams or Minnesota's Laurence Maroney slips to them at 25, the Giants could take advantage.


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Jake, Wilmington NC: Some projections show the Panthers going with a safety in the first round and moving Thomas Davis to OLB. Is that a viable scenario?

Todd McShay: It certainly is. They could draft a safety such as Ohio State's Donte Whitner and move T. Davis to WLB. Another option is to draft a WLB such as DeMeco Ryans and then move T. Davis to SS. Finally, if LenDale White is on the board, I think the Panthers will run their representative to the podium without thinking twice about it. White's stock is dipping after he showed up out of shape w/ a hammy injury at USC's pro day, but White is still a great football player with the potential to become a bell-cow back in Carolina's power-run offense.


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Chris (Lacey, WA): Todd - NO is really the key to the draft at the #2 spot...what are they going to do with it?

Todd McShay: You're spot on, Chris. Once we figure the Saints out, the rest of the picture becomes clearer. They will attempt to shop the pick but I'm not sure they'll get the value they are looking for at No. 2. I've spoken to a friend within the organization today and he says they have yet to receive a legitimate call regarding a trade. If a team trades in, it likely will be for QB Matt Leinart. If the Saints stay, the smart money is on DE Mario Williams. He doesn't fit a big need but he's the best available prospect. I know teh Saints love A.J. Hawk and they'd be happy to flip-flop with the Jets to get him, but they're struggling with the concept of drafting Hawk over Williams at No. 2.


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Travis (Treynor, IA): Do you think Greenway boosted his draft stock with his improved pro day performance. I believe he ran a 4.51.

Todd McShay: Greenway ran a 4.58 and a 4.61 in his two 40 attempts at Iowa's Pro Day. He did improve his times from the combine, which helped to regain some momentum. However, I think Hawk and FSU's Ernie Sims are clearly rated higher than Greenway at this point. Sims could come off the board as early as No. 12 to the Browns. I think Greenway will come off the board somewhere between 17 (Vikes) and 25 (Giants).


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Mike: Any chance the Titans are actually targeting Young over Leinart?

Todd McShay: There's a very good chance. Leinart was in for a workout today... I'll be interested to get a report from that. As of yesterday, I was told there was a bit of a split, with the personnel dept. (F. Reese) preferring Young and the coaching staff (Fisher and Chow) preferring Leinart.


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Eddie (Hoboken, NJ): Why is Penn State's Tamba Hali slipping?

Todd McShay: He made a mistake by not working out at the combine because he hinged everything on his Pro Day, where he worked out poorly and ran two 40 times in the mid 4.8-second range. I think Hali will slip out of the first round now.


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Luke (St.Louis): What in the world are the Raiders going to do?

Todd McShay: Vince Young is a strong possibility if he slips to No. 7. In that scenario, Brooks would become the bridge-the-gap QB and M. Tuiasosopo would be out of a job.

Todd McShay: If it's not Young, I hear the Raiders have serious interest in TE Vernon Davis and DB Michael Huff -- in that order.


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Mitchell (Allen,TX): What are the odds of the Cowboys trading down?

Todd McShay: I think the Cowboys would love to trade down. They have needs at safety and off. tackle, but the value won't match it. OSU DS Donte Whitner is a bit of a reach at 18 and Auburn ROT Marcus McNeill is an even bigger reach. Moving up for USC OT Winston Justice is a possibility. Drafting Va. Tech DB Jimmy Williams is another strong possibility if he falls. If not, the team would like to move down and draft a guy like Whitner or McNeill later in the round.


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Todd (Orlando, FL): What are the Jags going to do at the bottom? THey have big needs at TE (with the aging Brady) and at LB (with Ayodele's departure and Arrington not wanting to sign)? What could happen with their pick at the bottom?

Todd McShay: You hit on two of their biggest needs. They could go after a tight end such as Georgia's Leonard Pope with that pick, but I think they're smarter than that. Look for the Jags to draft an OLB like NC State's Manny Lawson or Bobby Carpenter, both of which can play SLB and upgrade the pass rush. Then the team can take advantage of a strong TE class by drafting a prospect such as Colorado's Joe Klopfenstein late in the second round.


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Gary (Glens Falls,NY): When will the compensitory picks be handed out and what do the saints expect to receive?

Todd McShay: They've already been handed out. The Saints got an extra pick in the sixth and seventh rounds.


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Lorena (Phoenix, AZ): Any insight on the Cardinals?

Todd McShay: The Cardinals would love Md. TE Vernon Davis to fall to them at 10, but it's highly unlikely. There's an outside chance that they trade up for him, but don't bank on it. They like OT Winston Justice a lot, but not enough to take him at 10. One thought is to trade down a few spots in order to acquire an extra pick and still get Justice, but that's a big gamble. At the end of the day, I think they'll wind up sticking with the 10th pick and using it to draft a DB. Huff will probably be gone, so Va. Tech's Jimmy Williams becomes a real possibility.


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Mike (Albany,NY): Todd- Do you see Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson slipping to Buffalo? If so do they pick him or go Defense?

Todd McShay: Nice thought but no chance. They'd love Ferguson to fall to them but it won't happen. I think FSU DT Brodrick Bunkley is high on their list because he fits Jauron's one-gap philosphy. Oregon NT/DT Haloti Ngata isn't out of the question, but he's a 330-pounder better suited to play nose in a 3-4. It's a bit too high for OT Winston Justice, but the Bills could also reach for him there.


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Kurt (Minnesota): What do you see the Bengals doing on the draft day now that they addressed their glaring needs on defense in free agency (safety and D-tackle)?

Todd McShay: Marvin Lewis has done a masterful job putting this roster together both via the draft and free agency. As such, the team doesn't have many glaring needs. It certainly could use the 24th pick to upgrade TE (M. Lewis or L. Pope), but I think it will wind up going in the direction of a DE such as Boston College's M. Kiwanuka or NC State's M. Lawson.

Todd McShay: Also, look for the Bengals to draft a QB by the end of Day 1. Some possibilities include Alabama's Brodie Croyle, Oregon's Kellen Clemens, Bowling Green's Omar Jacobs and Clemson's Charlie Whitehurst.


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Nick (Dover, Pa): Should the Eagles draft Chad Jackson if they are unable to land Javon Walker?

Todd McShay: It's not a bad idea entirely, but two extremely young WR's (R. Brown from last year's 2nd round) could cause McNabb to pull his hair out. I think the Eagles are more likely to draft an OT like Winston or an OLB such as Ernie Sims with that pick.


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John (Minneapolis): Is there a significant likelihood that the Vikings might draft a running back at #17?

Todd McShay: There's a chance but they're targetting other positions before RB. If Vandy QB Jay Cutler falls to 17 the Vikes will take him and allow Childress to develop him behind B. Johnson. If not, upgrading the athleticism at LB is a big priority now that the team is moving to a cover-2 look. Ernie Sims would be ideal but he isn't likely to be available. Iowa's Chad Greenway is a more likely candidate.


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Matt (Toronto): Who do you think would be the best fit for the Bears, Yobouty, Cromartie, or Joseph at CB? or are they better off taking a TE and leaving CB until the second round?

Todd McShay: Youboty is the best fit in the hybrid cover-2 that the Bears run because he's the most physical. I think the Bears are smart enough to get their CB in the first round and then draft a TE such as Colorado's J. Klopfenstein or USC's D. Byrd in the second round.


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Mac (Portland): What about the Bilentokoff award winner; Mike Hass, where do you see him going?

Todd McShay: Hass should come off the board late on the first day. He doesn't impress you with his workout numbers but his instincts, route running skills and hands are impressive. I think he'll find a way to make an impact as a sub-package WR in the NFL. I know this; he's proven many wrong in the past!

Todd McShay: That's all for today. I'll be back to "chat" same time next Tuesday. Hopefully Matt Leinart has representation by then...

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Old 04-12-2006, 06:38 AM   #2
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Re: Chat with Scouts Inc.'s Todd McShay about the NFL Draft

Mario seems to have more value than Matt for us to trade down.

Mac (Portland): What about the Bilentokoff award winner; Mike Hass, where do you see him going?

Todd McShay: Hass should come off the board late on the first day. He doesn't impress you with his workout numbers but his instincts, route running skills and hands are impressive. I think he'll find a way to make an impact as a sub-package WR in the NFL. I know this; he's proven many wrong in the past!

This is the guy. A walk on that has 3 1000+ yds recieving years! He will be one of the best #3 recievers in the NFL. Determination, guts and hardwork.

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Old 04-12-2006, 09:17 AM   #3
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You're spot on, Chris. Once we figure the Saints out, the rest of the picture becomes clearer.
Once again, good move Loomis. It's nice to be in the driver's seat for the whole draft.

I know teh Saints love A.J. Hawk and they'd be happy to flip-flop with the Jets to get him, but they're struggling with the concept of drafting Hawk over Williams at No. 2.
True, Hawk is a decent football player but just not worth 2nd overall.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:25 PM   #4
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hawk is very much worth the 2nd overall pick.

he is the top LB in the class that has 4.4 speed, great instincts, and great football smarts....he is also from dayton...which makes him a stud!!!
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