Originally Posted by papz

... and he had his best season to date. How old is he again? 8) Charles Rogers is a coulda, shoulda, woulda. Good point on Brooks gandhi. Stallworth isn't great, but he's on the right track unlike Rogers. So if you consider Stallworth a disappointment (which to a certain extent he is because of his draft slot), what do you consider Rogers?

Originally Posted by pakowitz

im not sayin rodgers has been great but i think he would have been a better reciever had he not been injured and played with a better qb...

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Since you have seen him so extensively throughout his career,

I take this to mean you haven't, and thus are making an NFL.com stats opinion of Grant's play. That's enough for me. Have a good day. quote]


I guess i will take this to mean as you know when to fold 'em. Look, I haven't missed a Saints game since the last year of the Ditka era. I have seen Grant play every game he has played on the proffesional level. I like Charles Grant, i said that before, but he isnt a top 10 DE and you know it. You lost this arguement...you backed out like a 12 year old girl...its ok. And dont accuse me of just pulling up stats when the only logical thing you have come up with is "Dont get mad at me, SCOUTS INC has him rated number 7. Get mad at them." B-O-O H-O-O. You lose. Its ok. Move on..but just admit it.

Originally Posted by pakowitz

and yes... i said rogers is a better reciever then stallworth b/c i do believe that had he not broken his collarbone 2 years in a row then he would have the #s to prove it... but now they have roy n mike williams so there arent that many balls to go around... and lets face it... harrington wasnt that great of a qb during his lions tenure... and dont tell me you havent been watchin stallworth for the past 3 years... he has disappointed me and i would hope everyone else with his play... i mean... everyone knows joe horn is our #1 guy... so that means he is getting all the double teams... so stallworth is gettin the 2nd best corner every sunday.. and he hasnt put up hardly any descent stats... if he is that great then he should have at least 85-90 catches going up against a teams 2nd best corner every week....