49ers have 2 1sts

pakowitz · 04-19-2006, 01:45 PM

lol

saintswhodi · 04-19-2006, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

maybe its b/c they have so many holes to fill that it doesnt matter how many picks they have it still wouldnt help so they decided to get high picks to get some "better" talent into their roster...taking quality over quantity...

Could be, but I am not buying that. Only because the draft is so deep, they could have gotten quality players with their second and third. So now they are gonna just hang their hat on two? I think they will either move up to get Bush, or now that I think about it, maybe they are thinking of trading back from 6, and know they will pick up a second and third rounder in doing so. Also, they will still have a first at 22.

pakowitz · 04-19-2006, 01:48 PM

but Y trade ur 2nd n 3rd for a first if ur just gonna move back again...

JimBone · 04-19-2006, 01:48 PM

Thats a lot of hoping to do 10 days before the draft. Thats why i say the deal may have made more sense on draft day...but that is why i dont run an NFL team. Those guys know more than me.

saintswhodi · 04-19-2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

but Y trade ur 2nd n 3rd for a first if ur just gonna move back again...

Ok, they traded their second and third for a first. Still with me? If they move back, THEY STILL HAVE A FIRST. And for a pick in the top 6, they should be able to draw some pretty good picks in return. That's all I am saying. Trading back from 6 should net them another second and third, or another mid-to late round first and a second. So then instead of a first, second, and third, they would have two firsts, and a second. I dunno, the deal doesn't really make actual sense to me unless they are trying to get Bush. I hope they are, and I hope he falls to us. I'd take the 49ers to the cleaners.

pakowitz · 04-19-2006, 01:56 PM

maybe if they dropped like 10 spots... but i dont think they would do that... otherwise they will likely only get at possible 3rd...

Boogro · 04-19-2006, 02:24 PM

It also seems Denver has targeted a certain player. I am thinking Davis or Jackson there. Good move for Denver, Stupid for Frisco. Who's their GM these days? Must me Ditka

hagan714 · 04-19-2006, 11:11 PM

I say hats to both. SF is like us in need of everything DE,OLB,CB,S,TE, trade up 1 spot (100 pts) and they got AJ. stay put and you got Davis. At 22 they might get a shoot at carpenter also. if not OLB Chad Greenway, DeMeco Ryans are all options. LB looks good for years to come. At CB Johnathan Joseph, Kelly Jennings, Richard Marshall, Ashton Youboty probly to pick from. OLB/DE Manny Lawson.
DENVER TRIED TO MOVE UP TO GET DAVIS AND THEY COULD NOT WORK A DEAL TO MOVE UP SO THEY WORKED A DEAL TO MOVE DOWN. JACKSOM MAKES THE MOST SENSE NOW.

hagan714 · 04-19-2006, 11:44 PM

SF can trade with us at 2 and still have at least one pick in each round. the same with denver up to 4. whats so bad about the math here. both improved and covered there butts.

Boogro · 04-20-2006, 09:40 AM

SF can trade with us at 2 and still have at least one pick in each round. the same with denver up to 4. whats so bad about the math here. both improved and covered there butts.

All but rd 2, but I'd still take their 3rd and 4th rounders along with their 2 firsts. Would that be enough pts.?

04-19-2006, 01:45 PM	#12
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by pakowitz maybe its b/c they have so many holes to fill that it doesnt matter how many picks they have it still wouldnt help so they decided to get high picks to get some "better" talent into their roster...taking quality over quantity... Could be, but I am not buying that. Only because the draft is so deep, they could have gotten quality players with their second and third. So now they are gonna just hang their hat on two? I think they will either move up to get Bush, or now that I think about it, maybe they are thinking of trading back from 6, and know they will pick up a second and third rounder in doing so. Also, they will still have a first at 22.

04-19-2006, 01:53 PM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by pakowitz but Y trade ur 2nd n 3rd for a first if ur just gonna move back again... Ok, they traded their second and third for a first. Still with me? If they move back, THEY STILL HAVE A FIRST. And for a pick in the top 6, they should be able to draw some pretty good picks in return. That's all I am saying. Trading back from 6 should net them another second and third, or another mid-to late round first and a second. So then instead of a first, second, and third, they would have two firsts, and a second. I dunno, the deal doesn't really make actual sense to me unless they are trying to get Bush. I hope they are, and I hope he falls to us. I'd take the 49ers to the cleaners.

04-19-2006, 11:11 PM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	I say hats to both. SF is like us in need of everything DE,OLB,CB,S,TE, trade up 1 spot (100 pts) and they got AJ. stay put and you got Davis. At 22 they might get a shoot at carpenter also. if not OLB Chad Greenway, DeMeco Ryans are all options. LB looks good for years to come. At CB Johnathan Joseph, Kelly Jennings, Richard Marshall, Ashton Youboty probly to pick from. OLB/DE Manny Lawson. DENVER TRIED TO MOVE UP TO GET DAVIS AND THEY COULD NOT WORK A DEAL TO MOVE UP SO THEY WORKED A DEAL TO MOVE DOWN. JACKSOM MAKES THE MOST SENSE NOW.
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04-19-2006, 01:48 PM	#13
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	but Y trade ur 2nd n 3rd for a first if ur just gonna move back again...

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JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	Thats a lot of hoping to do 10 days before the draft. Thats why i say the deal may have made more sense on draft day...but that is why i dont run an NFL team. Those guys know more than me.

04-19-2006, 01:56 PM	#16
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	maybe if they dropped like 10 spots... but i dont think they would do that... otherwise they will likely only get at possible 3rd...

04-19-2006, 02:24 PM	#17
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	It also seems Denver has targeted a certain player. I am thinking Davis or Jackson there. Good move for Denver, Stupid for Frisco. Who's their GM these days? Must me Ditka

04-19-2006, 11:44 PM	#19
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	SF can trade with us at 2 and still have at least one pick in each round. the same with denver up to 4. whats so bad about the math here. both improved and covered there butts.

04-20-2006, 09:40 AM	#20
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	SF can trade with us at 2 and still have at least one pick in each round. the same with denver up to 4. whats so bad about the math here. both improved and covered there butts. All but rd 2, but I'd still take their 3rd and 4th rounders along with their 2 firsts. Would that be enough pts.?