Mario Williams

JimBone · 04-20-2006, 08:39 PM

You cannot argue against his measurables. The guy has all the ability in the world to be great. Alonzo Spellman is a good reference. But if you want to talk about "Workout wonderboys", how bout Mike Mamula? The guy was a beast...who didnt do a damn thing.

saintswhodi · 04-20-2006, 09:24 PM

Mamula is a great example too, but I wanted to try and bring out someone people hadn't said already. I just remembered Alonzo for some reason. Dude was a physical freak.

JimBone · 04-20-2006, 09:35 PM

So was Aundray Bruce.

GoldRush26 · 04-20-2006, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

You mean you were all up on a guy who had 5 and then 6 sacks in consecutive years? Kudos. I never heard of the chump.

Ha well what I do with every edition of NCAA College Football for XBox is that I edit and name every player over the rating for 90(for importing purposes for Madden), so I can honestly say I knew who Mario Williams was before the hype(i'm now reduced to using video games as analytical tools). He definitely wasn't the best DE in the game and he's ascending a little too high for my tastes. I think Kiwanuka was rated higher than him. I don't think he's worth the second pick in the draft. That being said, if we were to pick him at 2, it wouldn't be the WORST thing we could do.

However the point is moot because this is all just a huge smokescreen. The FO just gave the media some bait about us wanting to pick Williams after the season ended and they ran with it. Why would they reveal who they wanted to take that early?

milesc44 · 04-21-2006, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Pass on Mario. Most bust potential in the draft. He did the least against better competition in college out of any of the top picks. Workout Warrior.

I totally agree. I'm out here in ACC country and I've NEVER heard of this guy before the combine. I'd rather go with Hawk, D'brick, or even the RB from Minnesota as insurance for McAllister.

saintswhodi · 04-21-2006, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by milesc44

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Pass on Mario. Most bust potential in the draft. He did the least against better competition in college out of any of the top picks. Workout Warrior.

I totally agree. I'm out here in ACC country and I've NEVER heard of this guy before the combine. I'd rather go with Hawk, D'brick, or even the RB from Minnesota as insurance for McAllister.

There you have it folks, confirmation from ACC country. Definite pass.

pakowitz · 04-21-2006, 11:49 AM

now just tell that to the saints FO

BrooksMustGo · 04-21-2006, 11:53 AM

The Immortal Mario Williams would be a fine pick. I have no problem with taking him. Steve McNair wasn't anything special when he came out.

saintswhodi · 04-21-2006, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

The Immortal Mario Williams would be a fine pick. I have no problem with taking him. Steve McNair wasn't anything special when he came out.

um, what? Air McNair was on the verge of setting or breaking NUMEROUS college passing and total yardage records when he came out. Don't sully the man's name by comparing him to Mario Williams. That's an insult.

pakowitz · 04-21-2006, 02:03 PM

um, what? Air McNair was on the verge of setting or breaking NUMEROUS college passing and total yardage records when he came out. Don't sully the man's name by comparing him to Mario Williams. That's an insult.

that maybe true but that doesnt mean he was well known before the draft or the combine... i remember askin myself who the hell steve mcnair was....

04-20-2006, 09:41 PM	#24
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by saintswhodi You mean you were all up on a guy who had 5 and then 6 sacks in consecutive years? Kudos. I never heard of the chump. Ha well what I do with every edition of NCAA College Football for XBox is that I edit and name every player over the rating for 90(for importing purposes for Madden), so I can honestly say I knew who Mario Williams was before the hype(i'm now reduced to using video games as analytical tools). He definitely wasn't the best DE in the game and he's ascending a little too high for my tastes. I think Kiwanuka was rated higher than him. I don't think he's worth the second pick in the draft. That being said, if we were to pick him at 2, it wouldn't be the WORST thing we could do. However the point is moot because this is all just a huge smokescreen. The FO just gave the media some bait about us wanting to pick Williams after the season ended and they ran with it. Why would they reveal who they wanted to take that early?
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04-21-2006, 08:49 AM	#25
milesc44 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 10	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Pass on Mario. Most bust potential in the draft. He did the least against better competition in college out of any of the top picks. Workout Warrior. I totally agree. I'm out here in ACC country and I've NEVER heard of this guy before the combine. I'd rather go with Hawk, D'brick, or even the RB from Minnesota as insurance for McAllister.

04-21-2006, 09:23 AM	#26
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by milesc44 Originally Posted by saintswhodi Pass on Mario. Most bust potential in the draft. He did the least against better competition in college out of any of the top picks. Workout Warrior. I totally agree. I'm out here in ACC country and I've NEVER heard of this guy before the combine. I'd rather go with Hawk, D'brick, or even the RB from Minnesota as insurance for McAllister. There you have it folks, confirmation from ACC country. Definite pass.

04-21-2006, 01:23 PM	#29
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo The Immortal Mario Williams would be a fine pick. I have no problem with taking him. Steve McNair wasn't anything special when he came out. um, what? Air McNair was on the verge of setting or breaking NUMEROUS college passing and total yardage records when he came out. Don't sully the man's name by comparing him to Mario Williams. That's an insult.

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04-20-2006, 08:39 PM	#21
JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	You cannot argue against his measurables. The guy has all the ability in the world to be great. Alonzo Spellman is a good reference. But if you want to talk about "Workout wonderboys", how bout Mike Mamula? The guy was a beast...who didnt do a damn thing.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Mamula is a great example too, but I wanted to try and bring out someone people hadn't said already. I just remembered Alonzo for some reason. Dude was a physical freak.

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JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	So was Aundray Bruce.

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pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	now just tell that to the saints FO

04-21-2006, 11:53 AM	#28
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	The Immortal Mario Williams would be a fine pick. I have no problem with taking him. Steve McNair wasn't anything special when he came out.

04-21-2006, 02:03 PM	#30
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	um, what? Air McNair was on the verge of setting or breaking NUMEROUS college passing and total yardage records when he came out. Don't sully the man's name by comparing him to Mario Williams. That's an insult. that maybe true but that doesnt mean he was well known before the draft or the combine... i remember askin myself who the hell steve mcnair was....