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TheDeuce 04-28-2006 03:33 PM

Crap, we're favoring Mario Williams
 
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Saints leaning toward Williams
<Apr. 28> Even though the Saints are considering Mario Williams, D'Brickashaw Ferguson and A.J. Hawk at No. 2, Williams still appears to be the pick, ESPN.com's John Clayton reports. However, if Reggie Bush falls, New Orleans might be able to work out a trade. Most of the calls to the Saints so far have been from teams low in the first round and nothing has been attractive enough for them to consider making a trade.
WHY?!?!?!?!?!?

wheelman 04-28-2006 03:36 PM

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Because Clayton couldn't make up a better story. His old age has given him writer's block.

TheDeuce 04-28-2006 03:37 PM

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Hell, I hope youre right wheelman. We do not need this guy.

p.s.- I'm making a delicious turkey sammich

chRxis 04-28-2006 03:39 PM

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i would be very disappointed, but not surprised, if the saints stay put and draft mario williams... not that he's not a great player, but b/c we have more pressing needs on the offensive line...

wheelman 04-28-2006 03:39 PM

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Sloppy Joes > turkey sammich.

ssmitty 04-28-2006 03:41 PM

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no, we're not....................smitty

saintswhodi 04-28-2006 03:42 PM

I can already feel the bile rising in my throat. Sully draft all over again. :x

TheDeuce 04-28-2006 03:42 PM

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haha, thanks for the insight smitty!

wheelman 04-28-2006 03:44 PM

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haha, thanks for the insight smitty!

It was truely profound.

Tobias-Reiper 04-28-2006 03:53 PM

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If it is not Hawk or Brick, being #2-#7, don't really care what pick is, I will officially have an issue with the new staff, and begin a new, negative, smear campaign against Loomis and Mueller.

hagan714 04-28-2006 04:00 PM

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Claton is setting us up for a big surprise. ESPN wants the ratings and build the drama with thier own miss info. They are as bad as ET. Shame they use to be good. If anything happens it will be tomorrow. would you show your hand at the poker table?

ssmitty 04-28-2006 04:02 PM

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welcome to mr smitty's neighborhood.............
can you say smoke screen..........i bet you can...........
i know it's a big word, but say it with me.......s.m.o.k.e.s.c.r.e.e.n.
i knew you could do it.................it's a wonderful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day in the neighborhood, would you be my, could you be my, friend.......................smitty

chRxis 04-28-2006 04:04 PM

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i'm not sure that's the case hagan... the people watching the draft aren't watching it to see "who shot j.r."... this logic doesn't apply here... the draft coverage is viewed by diehard fans that would watch the draft with or without the suspence and propaganda, as you have insinuated...

chRxis 04-28-2006 04:05 PM

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fact is, they are as clueless as we are... the FO's are quite for a reason... they're so quiet you could hear a titmouse piss on cotton...

spkb25 04-28-2006 04:17 PM

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dude everyone has been on the mario bandwagon because that is who they think we should take. that is who they see as the best number two pick so they start putting that shiiit out there. it is funny to me that the nfl teams follow it sometimes. if we draft that guy i am going to kill myself. i will be happy with hawk or brick and even more so with a trade

dwiley21 04-28-2006 04:28 PM

Trade, Trade, Trade.... Need more picks....They signed a Qb, can now rid themselves of Bouman. A Trade would just make my weekend complete. Wouldn't it just be Great if Houston can't reach an agreement with Bush and take Mario.

Bise 04-28-2006 04:28 PM

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I am for Brick at #2.

Hawk or Brick at 4-7.

chRxis 04-28-2006 04:29 PM

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but what i was trying to say was that the fact that the saints pick is unknown and you have to "tune in to find out" like some suspense novel won't make anyone that didn't plan on watching the nfl draft watch it... my girlfriend will tivo something just b/c of a commercial she saw about some dumb show on mtv, but i can promise you if she saw a commercial about "who will the saints or anyone else draft", she could care less and won't even be intrigued to find out... i'm sure that is not the reasoning behind clayton's report on the saints taking williams... i'm sure he, like kiper and everyone else's mock, has mario 2nd, so he figures that's how it'll go.... long story short, no body knows.... and those that didn't care before, aren't going to care now b/c there's some mystery to it...

deucerulez 04-28-2006 04:31 PM

...if there is a football god, please not mario!!!

ssmitty 04-28-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chRxis
fact is, they are as clueless as we are... the FO's are quite for a reason... they're so quiet you could hear a titmouse piss on cotton...

a titmouse piss on cotton? what part of the country did you say you're from? lol smitty

mighty12 04-28-2006 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chRxis
i'm not sure that's the case hagan... the people watching the draft aren't watching it to see "who shot j.r."... this logic doesn't apply here... the draft coverage is viewed by diehard fans that would watch the draft with or without the suspence and propaganda, as you have insinuated...

I would disagree there even nondiehards will watch the beginging of the first round so once a name like Leinart, Bush, Young, or Williams starts falling people will continue to watch JUST to see where they go, and then the next big name starts falling DeAngelo, White, or Holmes one maybe slips into the 2nd round and then you have a few extra nondiehards who would have turned the channel still watching to see where they go. It is all a marketing ploy.

spkb25 04-28-2006 05:06 PM

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dude i watch both days. a little less so die hard as you get to round 6 and 7

pakowitz 04-28-2006 05:10 PM

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i watch all of the first day and check in on the 2nd day to see who has been taken and i even watch about a hour or so of the 2nd day... it just gets really boring after about the 4th round

mighty12 04-28-2006 05:11 PM

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I watch EVERY SECOND, and I have my sleeper picks assigned, and my war room pumping. Although I haven't picked a successful sleeper pick since Gawd knows when, so I won't be making a carreer out of this.

Dhatboi 04-28-2006 05:18 PM

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ONE MORE DAY TILL MARIO TIME BOUT TIME THE SAINTS ORGANIZATION DOES SOMETHING SMART........... :D

spkb25 04-28-2006 05:24 PM

for sure pick a guy over rated. from everything i have heard all the hype is based off his size and speed. really has nothing to do with his play

Dhatboi 04-28-2006 05:26 PM

dont we love em..........i kno you like em............u an undercover mario fan

mighty12 04-28-2006 05:27 PM

I am not a fan of Williams as a player, he had help on the other side, and alot of this praise is coming only because of his combine workout. I really didn't see any of his games so all I know of him is on paper and in Highlight reels, and I hate that.

TheDeuce 04-28-2006 05:28 PM

Don't forget that he "finished strong" last year against teams like Wake Forest, Mid Tenn St, Maryland, and Southern Miss!

mighty12 04-28-2006 05:31 PM

Yeah not a strong offensive schedule

spkb25 04-28-2006 05:38 PM

deuce the thing that scared me with what you just said was the fact that most of hius sacks came in bunches in a couple of games. maybe that actually goes with exactly what you just saiud. damn you whodi for being right. god i hate having to admit that

saintswhodi 04-28-2006 06:55 PM

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damn you whodi for being right. god i hate having to admit that
You should be used to it by now. 8)

spkb25 04-28-2006 06:57 PM

lol not all the time but you have gotten me a couple of times. not that i was a huge supporter of williams because the pick never made sense to me. i didn't know until you started saying it though how much hype this guy is. you nailed this one for sure

TheDeuce 04-28-2006 06:57 PM

From my favorite overweight sportswriter named Len:

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There are a lot of reasons to fall in love with North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams, who in the weeks leading up to the draft has been compared at various times to Pro Football Hall of Fame end Reggie White (maybe some hyperbole there), and current league stars Julius Peppers and Richard Seymour. Primary among the many attributes Williams possesses are tremendous "triangle numbers," the term scouts employ to refer to height, weight and 40-yard time. Williams is a physical freak, checking in at 6-feet-7 and 295 pounds, and having been clocked in the low-4.7s by most teams. But here are some numbers that give teams pause: Williams played in 36 games for the Wolfpack, but had sacks in just 16 of those contests. Of his 24½ career sacks, 13 of them came in four games. He had three of his six sacks in 2004 in a terrific performance against Florida State. In 2005, 10 of his 14½ quarterback takedowns came in multi-sack games against Wake Forest (three), Southern Mississippi (three) and Maryland (four).

His supporters argue, and justifiably so, that a lot of great pass-rushers collect sacks in bunches. True enough. The few detractors, who insist there are some holes in Williams' game, point out that he didn't always face great tackles in the ACC. And they add that, with teammates such as end Manny Lawson and tackle John McCargo on the same front four unit, Williams should have been more consistently dominant. Some Houston Texans assistants, not surprisingly led by defensive line aide Bob Karmelowicz, are said to be leading the lobbying for the team to choose Williams with the top overall pick on Saturday afternoon. But the Texans scouts aren't 100 percent sold yet that Williams will have an immediate impact in the league. A couple scouts from other teams noted to ESPN.com this week, when asked about comparisons between Williams and Peppers, that the Carolina Panthers star struggled early in his rookie campaign. Our counter: Maybe so, but he still finished that 2002 season with a dozen sacks.

spkb25 04-28-2006 07:02 PM

yeah that is far from dominating. bro i am wondering if the guy on the other side is actually better? what do you and the whodi think

mighty12 04-28-2006 07:02 PM

I just saw the most probable NFL Mock Draft on NFL Total Access, and it didn't come from a so-called ESPN NFL expert, it was from an Atlanta CB. He said the Saints WILL select DAS BRICKS(German I think LOL) because he didn't think it would be a smart move after the Saints have two Very consistant DEs. He should know, he actually sees them twice a year.

saintswhodi 04-28-2006 07:08 PM

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yeah that is far from dominating. bro i am wondering if the guy on the other side is actually better? what do you and the whodi think

I don't know if Lawson is better, but he is definitely a good player. He and Mccargo are predicted to go first day. That's apretty solid d-line right there for Williams to be so booty in big games.

TheDeuce 04-28-2006 07:11 PM

Good point whodi. I don't think that you can say that Lawson is better, but I definitely think that he helped Mario out, and it should say something about Williams that he wasn't able to get more sacks in the ACC with such nasty D Line help.

spkb25 04-28-2006 07:11 PM

that is for sure whodi

ssmitty 04-28-2006 07:31 PM

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no, we're not....................smitty

can this thread be closed forever in my favor? smitty


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