What's the impact of picking and keeping Bush?
 

I was out all evening so I'm just getting the news. I am hoping the Jets realize that it's more important to have Bush succeed Curtis Martin than it is for them to keep the #71 pick. The Saints can do a lot of damage with 4 picks in the 1st 71 including 3 in the 1st 34.

But let's presume that the Jets and the others are going to think that dealings with the Saints is business as usual i.e. pitch a lowball offer and wait for us to capitulate because as I heard quoted in Atlanta Sports Radio this week "Benson is cheap." What happens then?

Well the only logical choice is to pick Bush #2 because frankly at this point he's the only player that worthy of the pick.

Now what?

The Saints have clear needs at LB, Center, tackle, defensive tackle, and in the secondary. Wtihout the extra picks, most of those needs will not be filled.

So what's you opinion of the impact on the team by picking Bush? I know we may have to do it. But I wonder how it'll affect this season. How will Bush be used? How will holes be filled? Will Bush put butts in the seats?

What a day, what a day!

SFIAH

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well im still scared of the saints moving and at the very very least he will sell tickets. this is a win/win situation with him or trading for more picks.

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Bush will play both ways?

TB/WR/C on offense?
LB/CB/DT on defense?

He doesn't walk on water people.

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I don't know if we CAN take him. I mean, with Deuce and Bennett, where is this guy going to fit. I would love to see Reggie here, but I just don't know if he fits in. He's got RB, WR, PR, and KR abilities, but do we really need any of those covered? I'm not sure. I still hope we can trade down and get Hawk. But hell, if we couldn't make a reasonable deal, I would like to see Reggie handling the rock in NOLA.

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you sale tickets by winning not drafting a player... give me wins and you'll get butts in seats.

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As much as you people think the team "can't" pick him, the FO obviously thinks they can since they've already told Bush's agent that they intend to select him with the #2 pick.

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Yeah, well they can say whatever they want goldrush, until I actually see it, I'm still going to say think that everything I hear is smoke and mirrors type stuff.

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True it could all be extra misinformation and deception, but if it's as "impossible" for us to draft Bush as some people think then there's no way teams will trade with us. What chance do we have of trading the pick if everyone thinks that we will pass him up??? If everyone lowballs us we need to take this kid. If we have him and they still don't want to do it, then we have Reggie Bush and we go in that direction.

It is a feasible situation for Bush to be here in NO. It CAN work, even with Deuce here. If it wasn't possible, don't you think teams would pick up on that and would just not talk to us at all??? Deuce doesn't have an unmovable contract, 50 million or not.

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its not that they can move ahead of another team who would select him... if he is your man you do what you can to move up and get him... you don't wait for someone else to move up and get him. It doesn't matter if we want him or not.

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I agree with Deuce on this one. Reggie is not a NEED for the Saints. RB - Got a good one, PR/KR - That's the Beerman's job, WR - We are covered. I hope we trade down and pick up some players that we need. But if the Saints don't....oh well, I guess we have Reggie Bush. It wouldn't be a bad thing.

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Lets just hope that the Saints don't keep the #2 overall pick and draft Jay Cutler or Vince Young instead of moving down or drafting Bush. That to me would be something this organization would do.

I am not a big advocate of taking best player available, but Reggie Bush is a different story. He is a different breed of player and he just brings too much to the table to pass on. He would instantly be our change of pace back, our 3rd receiver and our kick returner...he is just a different breed and too hard to pass on unless the Saints can get what they want in picks to move down.

I think he will be the new Marshall Faulk.

with deuce and bennet having a history of injuries, that makes bush a need. if both deuce and bennett stay healthy then that gives bush sometime to get used to the nfl and we can just use him as a weapon at RB, WR, PR, and KR.

if either one of them get hurt again (atleast a 80% probability) bush can step right in and take over their position.

I'd take him. I was really gunning for Hwk but damn.........it's reggie flippin' bush.
What are we going to get out of a trade for more picks? Some backup linemen and linebackers? I just don't see much being worth it if what we get is #4 and a late first rounder. There are some good players that could be had there but no other Reggie Bushs

hey deuce your boy deuce is fast becoming a haz been. he looks lazy and slow to me the last couple of seasons. he doesn't break tackles and he doesn't have those long runs anymore. now he is comiung off knee surgery too. plus his numbers have gone down every year since he had that 15-1600 season. we don't already have a good running back. we had a good running back

yeah and what if reggie bush gets injured in camp and is out for the season? we still have all those holes on the line and on defense... i'm all for reggie bush being picked at two.... just trade him before the jets pick at 4.... this guy is going to be great, maybe one of the best... but maybe he won't and we have too many needs to limit ourselves pick-wise and money-wise to just reggie bush

well i have said from the beginning that i am for either taking bush or trading down. either one makes me happy.

hey chris if we lived of what if's nothing would get done. you can't tell the future bro. i understand what your saying but there is nothing you can do if that happens and you don't make moves off of what if's.

well what if he becomes the next barry sanders. then what?

round and round we go

then great for him... if you want to win right now, selecting one player won't do that... we'll still have one of the worst defenses in the league... he have to get better overall (throughout every position on the team) rather than at just one major upgrade at one position, which we're good at anyways...

remember ricky? everyone was so friggin' high on him thinking he was the next earl campbell or whatever... well, we traded up to get him, with the reasoning that if we could run the ball then we'll win games... well, our defense remained porous and we didn't win.... remember? same scenario although reggie is much, much better than ricky was...

It's too much to say our defense is one of the worst in the league. With Fujita and Simmons I think we're already better and maybe we take a solid CB with our 2nd.
Bush makes us better at RB, WR, and KR.

well we probably aren't going to win right now anyway. i don't think we are going to the super bowl. i don't think we even have a shot at it. you make no sense by saying then good for him after you jjust said well what if he gets hurt. same argument. if we take the kid great if not and we get picks great. i love it either way. you don't pass on one player who is going to be very very good because you have toher holes. jesus you would be doing that every year. also if i remember a lot of people were pissed when we took will. well now look. i understand what you are saying i really do we have holes. a lot of holes but man you don't let greatness pass you by just because of that.

And you cant compare this to the Ricky situation because we arent trading up to get him, he is there for us.

I think that you hit it right on the head. Both of these guy's are injury prone, and even if Bennet's healthy, Bush becomes the backup over him right away. The guy is the next Gayle Sayers.If they use him right, He can be a impact player at RB, WR, PR, KR, and sell a bunch of tickets as well as giving the Saints a higher profile.

i understood wth will smith pick... howard was in the last year of his contract... not the same case here though.... how many downs has reggie bush played in the nfl? anyone care to venture a guess? zero... so what is your point of basis as far as determining his "greatness"? you call racking up yards on the likes of stanford, arizona, and washington "great"? this guy is going to be good, but now is not the time to invest more money into just one position... would be the same argument if we drafted mario or leinart... too much money at one position will not allow you to get better at other areas... if our defense was better and we only needed some offensive help, then hell yes, make the pick, take some pictures, laugh and drink and be merry... but that ain't the case in NO... we need tons of help all over the place and unless reggie is playing 3 positions both ways, trade him for picks that we can use to upgrade more areas of need....

I remember, now it is our turn to get a team's entire draft for reggie, if not we got reggie....no one is a bigger fan of deuce than me, but where has he been the last 2 seasons, collecting a check on the sidleines.

the man was hurt... that happens some times in a contact sport.... or have you not played football to know that you get hurt sometimes? oh and we aren't getting someone's "entire draft".... after our screw up everyone learned how not to handle a draft... thanks ditka...

it is the same... a running back with all kinds of hype... that fact is what i'm comparing... not if we traded up or not... that's irrelevant to the point at hand... we need to be more balanced all over the field rather than great, A+ 100% at one position.... teams win with balance on both sides of the ball.... it doesn't matter if we score 30 pts a game if we're giving up 35... granted we're headed in the right direction as far as defense is concerned, but still have a ways to go...

Take Ricky out of the equation. Remember we traded our whole draft for him. Reggie fell to us at 2, we don't have to give up anything to get him, and we still the rest of our picks to fill some holes. There is also nothing saying we won't make a trade in the second round to move down a few spots to pick up and additional 3rd or 4th round pick.

You know what would strike me funny on the prospect of dealing Deuce?

Think on this for a second.
1. Miami has an offense that is based on two backs.
2. Ronnie Brown plays better sharing the load.
3. Ricky Williams has shot himself in the foot, again.
4. Saban might want a more proven between the tackles commodity in Deuce.

Think Saban would give up #16 for Deuce?