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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by wheelman You keep saying that we could have picked them, but you can say the same thing about every other team that had a second round pick. Those players lasted so long for a reason, and every ...

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Old 04-30-2006, 04:58 PM   #131
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You keep saying that we could have picked them, but you can say the same thing about every other team that had a second round pick. Those players lasted so long for a reason, and every team in the league saw it.
And for the record, Winston Justice, D'Qwell Jackson, Jimmy Williams, & Marcus McNeil all DID go in the second round.
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Old 04-30-2006, 05:00 PM   #132
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We don't know what round he would have been drafted in because different publications had him going in different spots. He's one of those guys that scouts had widely varying opinions on. And I still don't buy the Smith trade talk that was posted in another thread because there is no link provided. Until I see him actually traded, I will go on assuming that he will be moved to corner.
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Old 04-30-2006, 05:09 PM   #133
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hey wheel just to post to you in one of paytons audio clips and i think it is on the harper pick he did say we weren't looking to move any safety's to corner. obviously that could change but that is what he said
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Old 04-30-2006, 05:10 PM   #134
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Originally Posted by wheelman
You keep saying that we could have picked them, but you can say the same thing about every other team that had a second round pick. Those players lasted so long for a reason, and every team in the league saw it.
And for the record, Winston Justice, D'Qwell Jackson, Jimmy Williams, & Marcus McNeil all DID go in the second round.
All of the players you mentioned were selected before the 43rd pick, except for McNeil.

But he didn't stay in school, and fell to the fourth round because of it. Abdul Hodge fell to the third, as did Youboty, and Gilles. Justice was selected before the 43rd pick. Rattle off a player's name, and all but maybe 3 of them were either selected before the 43rd pick, or fell to the third round or later. We were not the only team in the NFL that saw question marks in the players that we have been talking about all off-season.
Keep trying.
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Old 04-30-2006, 05:13 PM   #135
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You keep saying that we could have picked them, but you can say the same thing about every other team that had a second round pick. Those players lasted so long for a reason, and every team in the league saw it.
And for the record, Winston Justice, D'Qwell Jackson, Jimmy Williams, & Marcus McNeil all DID go in the second round.
All of the players you mentioned were selected before the 43rd pick.

But he didn't stay in school, and fell to the fourth round because of it. Abdul Hodge fell to the third, as did Youboty, and Gilles. Justice was selected before the 43rd pick. Rattle off a player's name, and all but maybe 3 of them were either selected before the 43rd pick, or fell to the third round or later. We were not the only team in the NFL that saw question marks in the players that we have been talking about all off-season.
Keep trying.
Uhmm....Before the trade, we had the #34 pick. Hello, McFly???
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Old 04-30-2006, 05:16 PM   #136
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but we made the move back to get us a center with NFL starting experience... and we still got a good player
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Old 04-30-2006, 05:29 PM   #137
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We traded with Cleveland in order to get a veteran starting center, because the front office and coaching staff were obviously not impressed with the centers available after Mangold. We already have two players capable of filling the hole at right tackle in Stinch and Mayberry, so center became priority of the offense. And I didn't like McNeil anyway. Frankly, I think he looks like a lazy fat*** that succeeded because of the players around him.

On defense, remember, you people were the ones praising the hiring of Gibbs as the defensive coordinator. I didn't like it, but I was attacked for it. I see not drafting a linebacker as a direct result of his input. The man must believe they can field a competent defense with the linebacking corps the way it is.

The addition of Reggie Bush also improves our defense. Having him on the roster means improved field position and longer Time of possession. A defense can do wonders if it has 35 to 40 minutes to rest on the bench.

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Old 04-30-2006, 05:31 PM   #138
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hey wheel or if you are scoring points and making teams catch up that always helps. hey we as saint fans know something about that.
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Old 04-30-2006, 07:43 PM   #139
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I know some people are down on the harper pick, but he was rated to go anywhere from mid second to early third which is where we took him. I will hold off on my opinion and see what he does on the field. I would have rather had a cornerback that would evetually be a starter, but he is a saint now let's see what he's got.
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Old 04-30-2006, 07:49 PM   #140
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that QB was Delhomme, and yes i remember, i was standing a foot away from my tv screen, cursing bellamy's name.
If anyone hasn't said it, that was David Carr.
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