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Old 06-05-2006, 02:51 PM   #11
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RE: saints trade johnathon sullivan

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Old 06-05-2006, 02:53 PM   #12
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RE: saints trade johnathon sullivan

here is how the Boston Herald sums it it

The Patriots today traded disappointing fourth-year receiver Bethel Johnson to the New Orleans Saints for veteran defensive lineman Johnathan Sullivan, the No. 6 overall pick in 2003, according to sources.

Like Johnson, the Pats’ second-round pick in 2003, Sullivan came into the league with big expectations but never panned out for the Saints. Last year he had 34 tackles and one sack in 14 games. He has just 1.5 sacks for his career. The Saints moved up to select Sullivan (6-foot-3, 315 pounds) in 2003, giving up their two first-rounders to move to the sixth spot.

Johnson lived up to his promise as one of the fastest players Bill Belichick has ever coached, but durability and toughness issues dogged him.

He had just four catches in 11 games last season.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:00 PM   #14
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SULLY??????? HMMMM Whats going on here? Whos next. Why couldnt we get something better than a crappy WR.

I bet New E. is laughing thier butts off right now, Bethel is garbage imo.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:07 PM   #15
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And Sully is garbage. I wouldn't care if they gave us some used garbage pail kids cards, get that fat, check collecting, sucky, junk, tub of lard off our team.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:10 PM   #16
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From Patriots.com......


6/5/06
Johnson dealt to Saints
by Paul Perillo and Andy Hart

The Patriots traded disappointing wide receiver Bethel Johnson to the New Orleans Saints for defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan on Monday.

One of the oldest clichés regarding underachieving players involves a change of scenery. With that in mind, the Patriots and the New Orleans Saints decided to exchange one disappointment for another Monday afternoon when wide receiver Bethel Johnson was shipped to the Saints for defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan.

The trade is pending league approval, which could happen as early Tuesday. According to Patriots executive director of media relations Stacey James, an official press release will be issued once the deal is approved.

Both players were selected in 2003 – Sullivan in the first round (sixth overall) and Johnson in the second – and neither has lived up to his billing. The Saints actually traded up to get Sullivan, who was a teammate of Richard Seymour at Georgia, but the 6-3, 328-pounder has been ineffective during his three seasons.

The Saints have been upset with his poor conditioning in the past, and during their recently completed mini-camp he struggled with the heat despite being 20 pounds lighter than previous offseasons. In 2004, he was inactive for seven of New Orleans’ final eight games despite being healthy. In 36 career games, Sullivan managed just 1.5 sacks and 77 tackles.

The seven-year deal Sullivan signed as a rookie has four years remaining – roughly $689,000 for 2006, $901,000 in 2007, $1.24 million in 2008 and $1.45 million in 2009. However, several of the trades the Patriots have made in recent seasons have involved renegotiations, which could alter some of those dollar amounts.

Johnson, the Patriots second-round pick in 2003, came into the league with worlds of talent but never put it together in New England. He burst on the scene as a dynamic kick returner as a rookie, leading the AFC with a 28.2-yard average that included a 92-yard touchdown and several other big returns.

But he never cracked the receiving rotation during his three years. His world-class speed evidently couldn’t overcome his lack of polish as a route-runner and his seeming unwillingness to adapt to the different receiver spots. He was a healthy scratch three times last year and once in 2004.

In his three seasons, Johnson had just 30 catches for 450 yards and four touchdowns, but 16 of those receptions came in his rookie season. Johnson spoke recently about his inability to establish himself in Bill Belichick’s offense.

“It probably has to be that way,� Johnson said when asked if the end of his time here could be near. “It probably had to be that way, I don’t know. I don’t know if that will be the case, but I don’t know. That’s the thing in this business, you never know.�

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Old 06-05-2006, 03:17 PM   #17
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from the Pats board...

Here's Bethel's numbers :

2006 500000.00
2007 546000.00

and Sullivan's again :

2006 689083.00
2007 901333.00
2008 1243583.00
2009 1455829.00

we save 189,083 this year and 455,333 in 2007
while dumping 2,699,412 in the remaining 2 years of the contract.
I like cheaper Garbage. Beerman better watch his butt on the KR team. He is safe on the PR team though. Okay now we can loose henderson or stallworth and still have the same kind of WR.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:19 PM   #18
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I hope Stallworth get it together cuz i'll hate to see him traded but if we get a fair trade like this one i am all for it.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:20 PM   #20
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I don't like the trade. Sullivan does suck, but Bethel isn't much more than a kick returner. Our staff has a thing for receivers and safeties. Basically a trade of first round busts... I would have rather kept the bust at DT though. I'd hate to see him develop under Bill's toolege. He's never going to start there with Warren and Wilfork, but he can still be average. Oh well...
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