WATSON TRADED TO BILLS

saintsrule · 06-07-2006, 12:41 AM

I have never seen this much trading in the NFL. The NBA trades this much but not the NFL. I hope this trading is not hurting the salary cap. But who knows maybe they are being helped with that by the league.

I wish he had stayed and done well. But I hope these players they are getting turnout to be good. Maybe Payton believes that the defense is better than most people think.

papz · 06-07-2006, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by JimBone

This is the same thing as the Sullivan trade, we got what we could for him. Do you guys honestly think teams are going to give away great players for these guys? These are two guys that were going to be released before the season so at least we get two new guys in to compete. Bethel Johnson has got talent, but he has never put it all together. Euhus has played for some bad QB's but he too has some talent.

I'd rather keep a backup linebacker with talent than a 4th string TE with some talent.

And since when do you think our TE situation is a good one. Hilton is still learning, Campbell is a blocking guy (like Lamont Hall) and Conwell has a high cap number and cant stay healthy. So are you satisfied with Billy Miller and Nate Lawrie making the team? Me either. We were lucky to get anything for either one of them.

Hilton, Campbell, Conwell, and Miller are more than capable of handling the TE position on our team. I'm fine with trading away bad apples on our team... but I'd like to get something in equal value or pieces that we need to get better. I don't believe Euhus is one.

Now i do expect to do better in the event we trade Dwight Smith or Stallworth. But its not like we gave up alot and got nothing in return.

Well we traded away a second rounder who has starting experience for a 4th round TE who probably won't be any higher than 4th on our depth chart (if he even makes the team). Granted we didn't give up anything good, but the return didn't make any sense.

And TheDeuce... key word was maybe. I guess we'll never know what was on the table as far as draft picks were concerned. But, I'm pretty sure we could have netted a second day draft choice.

hagan714 · 06-07-2006, 06:25 AM

hey I am not crazy about the trade I think Watson got a bit of a raw deal here under haz. Had to put on wieght and play the middle. I always thought he could have been ok at WLB. Oh well
We carring 3 TE and maybe 1 TE on the practice squad. We got 6 now.
As for the trades I have seen worse with change of coaching. granted this is a bit more than expected. Man o man I please get some picks some where some how.

shrike3000 · 06-07-2006, 10:17 AM

I think that was honestly the best they could get for Watson. The choices were probably that or nothing. I totally support Payton getting rid of the players that don't fit into his new "attitude" for the team. The work ethic and attitude has been horrendous. Cleaning house is the right move!

We were lucky to get a camp body for Watson, and we were lucky to get a potentialy good WR for Sully.

I am worried about the DT, CB and OL..... but I will wait and see on that one. They will probably be our major focus next offseason.

NewMexSaint · 06-07-2006, 10:20 AM

that TE could possibly used in this trade with Denver, or it could be Conwell, but I dont think they picked him up just for a camp body, the PU has to do with this big Trade going on.

shrike3000 · 06-07-2006, 10:22 AM

You mean the big Ashley Lelie trade involving 3 different teams? I sure hope we are involved in all that. I love all this activity.

NOSaints · 06-07-2006, 11:34 AM

Payton is a coach that utilizes the TE position well. I think that between Hilton and Euhus, at 6'8" and 6'5" repectively, we could have a good duo. if Euhus shares the TE duties, he may not get tired as quickly and may be a good blocker as long as he is fresh. Think positive Shawn.

JimBone · 06-07-2006, 12:09 PM

I think some of you may have to start warming up to the fact that Conwell could be on his way out. Not for character reasons, but for the fact that his cap number is about 2.5 million and he hasnt been able to stay healthy...and the fact that he is now a backup. 2.5 million is a lot to pay a starting TE, not to mention a backup. So if the Saints have found one guy to make the team between Euhus and Miller, then they will cut ties with Conwell and go with Hilton, Campbell and Euhus...at least that is my observation.

saintswhodi · 06-07-2006, 12:13 PM

I can't see why anyone would have any ties to Conwell anyway. What has he done? If his salary is that high, he HAS to go.

NOSaints · 06-07-2006, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I can't see why anyone would have any ties to Conwell anyway. What has he done? If his salary is that high, he HAS to go.

AMEN BROTHAAA !! He is another one of Haslett's boys. We should offer him back to the Lambs but they probably won't want him. I would get rid of Conwell before i got rid of Stallworth.

06-07-2006, 12:41 AM	#21
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	I have never seen this much trading in the NFL. The NBA trades this much but not the NFL. I hope this trading is not hurting the salary cap. But who knows maybe they are being helped with that by the league. I wish he had stayed and done well. But I hope these players they are getting turnout to be good. Maybe Payton believes that the defense is better than most people think.
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657

06-07-2006, 05:00 AM	#22
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Originally Posted by JimBone This is the same thing as the Sullivan trade, we got what we could for him. Do you guys honestly think teams are going to give away great players for these guys? These are two guys that were going to be released before the season so at least we get two new guys in to compete. Bethel Johnson has got talent, but he has never put it all together. Euhus has played for some bad QB's but he too has some talent. I'd rather keep a backup linebacker with talent than a 4th string TE with some talent. And since when do you think our TE situation is a good one. Hilton is still learning, Campbell is a blocking guy (like Lamont Hall) and Conwell has a high cap number and cant stay healthy. So are you satisfied with Billy Miller and Nate Lawrie making the team? Me either. We were lucky to get anything for either one of them. Hilton, Campbell, Conwell, and Miller are more than capable of handling the TE position on our team. I'm fine with trading away bad apples on our team... but I'd like to get something in equal value or pieces that we need to get better. I don't believe Euhus is one. Now i do expect to do better in the event we trade Dwight Smith or Stallworth. But its not like we gave up alot and got nothing in return. Well we traded away a second rounder who has starting experience for a 4th round TE who probably won't be any higher than 4th on our depth chart (if he even makes the team). Granted we didn't give up anything good, but the return didn't make any sense. And TheDeuce... key word was maybe. I guess we'll never know what was on the table as far as draft picks were concerned. But, I'm pretty sure we could have netted a second day draft choice.

06-07-2006, 10:17 AM	#24
shrike3000 Registered Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 39	I think that was honestly the best they could get for Watson. The choices were probably that or nothing. I totally support Payton getting rid of the players that don't fit into his new "attitude" for the team. The work ethic and attitude has been horrendous. Cleaning house is the right move! We were lucky to get a camp body for Watson, and we were lucky to get a potentialy good WR for Sully. I am worried about the DT, CB and OL..... but I will wait and see on that one. They will probably be our major focus next offseason.
shrike3000 Registered Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 39	--- Jason from Conroe, TX

06-07-2006, 10:22 AM	#26
shrike3000 Registered Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 39	You mean the big Ashley Lelie trade involving 3 different teams? I sure hope we are involved in all that. I love all this activity.
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06-07-2006, 12:09 PM	#28
JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	I think some of you may have to start warming up to the fact that Conwell could be on his way out. Not for character reasons, but for the fact that his cap number is about 2.5 million and he hasnt been able to stay healthy...and the fact that he is now a backup. 2.5 million is a lot to pay a starting TE, not to mention a backup. So if the Saints have found one guy to make the team between Euhus and Miller, then they will cut ties with Conwell and go with Hilton, Campbell and Euhus...at least that is my observation.
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06-07-2006, 06:25 AM	#23
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	hey I am not crazy about the trade I think Watson got a bit of a raw deal here under haz. Had to put on wieght and play the middle. I always thought he could have been ok at WLB. Oh well We carring 3 TE and maybe 1 TE on the practice squad. We got 6 now. As for the trades I have seen worse with change of coaching. granted this is a bit more than expected. Man o man I please get some picks some where some how.

06-07-2006, 10:20 AM	#25
NewMexSaint 100th Post Join Date: May 2006 Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 141	that TE could possibly used in this trade with Denver, or it could be Conwell, but I dont think they picked him up just for a camp body, the PU has to do with this big Trade going on.

06-07-2006, 11:34 AM	#27
NOSaints 100th Post Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lakewood, California Posts: 113	Payton is a coach that utilizes the TE position well. I think that between Hilton and Euhus, at 6'8" and 6'5" repectively, we could have a good duo. if Euhus shares the TE duties, he may not get tired as quickly and may be a good blocker as long as he is fresh. Think positive Shawn.

06-07-2006, 12:13 PM	#29
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I can't see why anyone would have any ties to Conwell anyway. What has he done? If his salary is that high, he HAS to go.

06-07-2006, 12:30 PM	#30
NOSaints 100th Post Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lakewood, California Posts: 113	Originally Posted by saintswhodi I can't see why anyone would have any ties to Conwell anyway. What has he done? If his salary is that high, he HAS to go. AMEN BROTHAAA !! He is another one of Haslett's boys. We should offer him back to the Lambs but they probably won't want him. I would get rid of Conwell before i got rid of Stallworth.