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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; QB--Brew Brees--I will cheer for him to succeed, because he is a Saints player. He will recover from the injury, but even before that injury, he didn't have much ability. Here he has more offensive firepower, than with the Chargers. ...

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Old 06-13-2006, 02:33 AM   #1
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Thoughts on the possible starters.

QB--Brew Brees--I will cheer for him to succeed, because he is a Saints player. He will recover from the injury, but even before that injury, he didn't have much ability. Here he has more offensive firepower, than with the Chargers. I hope the rest of the team can carry him.

RB--Deuce McAllister--I know he will be healthy, for the start of the season. The injury was not serious from the start. Most people need to be carried off the field after it, he didn't need to be, he limped to the sideline. And also, the injury was looked at more than once, to make sure he had to miss the rest of the season, which gets me thinking that he was not hurt as bad as it could have been. He will be okay. He might not do as well, as he could be cause of Reggie
Bush.

FB--Mike Karney--He is becoming one of the best blockers in the league, and who knows he might get a few catches too. If everyone else is covered, atleast he is able to catch the ball. Deuce said, he perfers a FB in the game, I wonder if Reggie and Micheal Bennett feel the same. If they do, then having him here is good for them. But, will he be in the games much, with Deuce and Reggie here.

WR--Joe Horn--He probably will be the #2 receiver this year, because of Donte's youth and
speed. His injury is probably already okay. I know he will play his best, like all players do, no matter if he gets 1,000 yards or not.

WR--Donte' Stallworth--He will probably be the #1 receiver and get his first 1,000 yard season. But no matter if he does or not atleast he will help open things up for all the other offensive players. This team is so stocked with offensive talent, that their numbers maybe more balanced.

TE--Zack Hilton--If he starts, being the tallest TE in the league will be a plus for the team. All a QB has to do is throw the ball up for him to grab. Hopefully, he has more than height. Last
year there were a couple of times when he got alot of yards on catches.

LT--Jammal Brown--Moving to LT is not a concern for me, I think these players in the NFL are smarter than most think. And if the coaches think he can play it, then I do too. Last year he dominated Peppers, of the Panthers. And I believe he will only get better with experience. People wanted someone to protect Deuce and Drew, who are coming off injuries. Well he is already on the team.

LG--Montrea Holland--Looked at as one of the up and coming guards, in the league. I read that about him. They may run to the left alot with him and Jammal there. That should keep all these good RB's productive.

C--Jeff Faine--I know almost nothing about him, except that he was a first round pick, which is good to hear. He will come back from the injury and help the Saints do well. And he will want to play better than LeCharles in that first game of the season.

RG--Jermane Mayberry--He is a veteran who knows how to play in the league. He will be ready to play better than last year. Every player has an off year. That was his. Not to mention most of the players from last year, seeing as they had a storm and it's aftermath to deal with.

RT--Jon Stinchcomb--He was doing well in last year's training camp, until he got hurt. He probably would not have beat out Wayne, because he was a veteran who knows how to play better. But without anyone ahead of him, he will show that he just needed a chance.

LE--Charles Grant--He, like the rest of the team, had an off year, but will comeback better than ever. When his sacks go down, usually his tackles go up. So maybe he is trying to stop the run more, which is what is needed. But even he says, that he wants more sacks this year.

DT--Thomas Hollis--A big guy who can stop the run up the middle. I know he is up there in age with Jermane, but atleast he brings experience from a team that had a good defense when he was there.

DT--Cedric Woodard--I put him as a starter, because of two reasons. One is because I don't know who they have as the starter now. And two because I have hear that he is a good player. With his size it seems he would be better against the run than the smaller DTs. But again they say they will go upfield more and not try to hold up blockers, so it might not matter what their size is.

LB--Scott Fujita--I guess they brought him here to be a starter, since he had become a starter with Dallas. So I assume he is a good player with experience. I hope he can do well here, and give the offense a defense they can do well with.

LB--Anthony Simmons--I know he will be healthy and will play better than any LB on the team. He is already looking better and the season hasn't even started. And I hope he teaches Albert Fincher how to be a good LBer, so that he can take over one day, or replace him if he gets hurt.

LB--Colby Bockwoldt--I don't know if he will be the starter or not. But I put him here, because he was last year. But since most of the LBers, on the team now are new, one of them might be better. If not, atleast he can start.

CB--Mike McKenzie--He was another player who was due for an off year, but will play much better this year. Since the DL and LB will play better, that will help the secondary alot. It just seems that he will be gettting more help than last year.

CB--Fred Thomas--I guess he is still listed as the starter, although Jason Craft had a better year than him. And for that matter, he had a better year than the other CBs too. But Fred is a veteran who knows how to start at the spot.

SS--Josh Bullocks--He had a good rookie season, and will probably keep his spot as a starter. He had a couple of interceptions called back and dropped a couple more, but he was a rookie, so that is understandable. He might end up being their best safety.

FS--Dwight Smith--Since he is still on the team, I will assume that he is the starter. He did good last year and would continue that play, if he is kept. If not it will be fun to watch Josh and Roman Harper start for the next few years. And they might one day be the best safety tandem in the league.
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:16 AM   #2
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RE: Thoughts on the possible starters.

DT--Thomas Hollis I hope is not a starter. he is better of the bench at his age and tonage
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:13 PM   #3
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RE: Thoughts on the possible starters.

Looks like Will Smith is missing ????? ..... No RE this year dang ... lol

Wow ..... Joe Horn #2 kidding me.... Jason Craft had better year and the better at getting beat with long balls Craft gets burnt on almost every play .... thomas trys ! .....
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Hollywood will be the #1 reciever. Stallworth will get a 1000 @ #2. The only change on D I would make is have McKenzie and DWIGHT SMITH as CB's. Bullocks and Stodamire or Harper @ FS & SS. WOW!!
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QB--Brew Brees--I will cheer for him to succeed, because he is a Saints player. He will recover from the injury, but even before that injury, he didn't have much ability. Here he has more offensive firepower, than with the Chargers. I hope the rest of the team can carry him.
Was this entire post supposed to be a joke? I think it has to be. He didn't have much ability before the injury? Really? Are we talking about the same person? The 2005 Pro Bowl quarterback? Hmmmm. OK, yeah I guess you don't have to have a lot of "ability" in order to get to the Pro Bowl. And the Saints have more offensive firepower than the Chargers? The best tight end and the best running back in the NFL isn't a good supporting cast? That's weird. And I hope the rest of the team doesn't carry him, I hope he carries the offense.

RB--Deuce McAllister--I know he will be healthy, for the start of the season. The injury was not serious from the start. Most people need to be carried off the field after it, he didn't need to be, he limped to the sideline. And also, the injury was looked at more than once, to make sure he had to miss the rest of the season, which gets me thinking that he was not hurt as bad as it could have been. He will be okay. He might not do as well, as he could be cause of Reggie
Bush.
The injury wasn't serious???? Since when is tearing your ACL not serious? I don't know if you know this, but the ACL is a very important part of your functioning knee. I also don't know if you understand that running backs rely heavily on the abilities of their knees. Deuce is a pretty tough guy, I don't think he'd sit out an entire season and watch his team get embarassed if he could do something about it. Remember in 2004 when he came back earlier than the trainers wanted him to on that twisted ankle. He wasn't as effective but he wanted to be on the field. I have some serious issues with this entire portion of your post.

WR--Joe Horn--He probably will be the #2 receiver this year, because of Donte's youth and
speed. His injury is probably already okay. I know he will play his best, like all players do, no matter if he gets 1,000 yards or not.

WR--Donte' Stallworth--He will probably be the #1 receiver and get his first 1,000 yard season. But no matter if he does or not atleast he will help open things up for all the other offensive players. This team is so stocked with offensive talent, that their numbers maybe more balanced.
You could be right here, but I seriously doubt it. I think Joe is still the #1 guy on this team when he's healthy.

TE--Zack Hilton--If he starts, being the tallest TE in the league will be a plus for the team. All a QB has to do is throw the ball up for him to grab. Hopefully, he has more than height. Last
year there were a couple of times when he got alot of yards on catches.
Being tall is good because he's a big target, but it's also a negative because he can't get under defenders when he's blocking them. It'll be interesting to see if he can prove that he should be our #1 guy. I liked him last year, and I think with a much improved ball deliverer, his game should be benefited.

LT--Jammal Brown--Moving to LT is not a concern for me, I think these players in the NFL are smarter than most think. And if the coaches think he can play it, then I do too. Last year he dominated Peppers, of the Panthers. And I believe he will only get better with experience. People wanted someone to protect Deuce and Drew, who are coming off injuries. Well he is already on the team.
I don't know if he dominated Peppers, but he did have a good rookie campaign. I agree with you, I think he'll be able to handle the switch.
RG--Jermane Mayberry--He is a veteran who knows how to play in the league. He will be ready to play better than last year. Every player has an off year. That was his. Not to mention most of the players from last year, seeing as they had a storm and it's aftermath to deal with.
I also think that when Haslett tried to play him at tackle, he really struggled. He's a better fit at guard, and I think he'll have a better year.

RT--Jon Stinchcomb--He was doing well in last year's training camp, until he got hurt. He probably would not have beat out Wayne, because he was a veteran who knows how to play better. But without anyone ahead of him, he will show that he just needed a chance.
I heard he's hurt right now. He's listed on ESPN.com's injury report.

LE--Charles Grant--He, like the rest of the team, had an off year, but will comeback better than ever. When his sacks go down, usually his tackles go up. So maybe he is trying to stop the run more, which is what is needed. But even he says, that he wants more sacks this year.
Grant is a monster.

DT--Thomas Hollis--A big guy who can stop the run up the middle. I know he is up there in age with Jermane, but atleast he brings experience from a team that had a good defense when he was there.

DT--Cedric Woodard--I put him as a starter, because of two reasons. One is because I don't know who they have as the starter now. And two because I have hear that he is a good player. With his size it seems he would be better against the run than the smaller DTs. But again they say they will go upfield more and not try to hold up blockers, so it might not matter what their size is.
I doubt that both of these guys start. I think you can go ahead and pencil Willie Whitehead into one of the starting spots.

LB--Colby Bockwoldt--I don't know if he will be the starter or not. But I put him here, because he was last year. But since most of the LBers, on the team now are new, one of them might be better. If not, atleast he can start.
Holy hell I hope he's not a starter. He's awful. We also have Tommy Polley. And Finch. And a waterboy.

CB--Fred Thomas--I guess he is still listed as the starter, although Jason Craft had a better year than him. And for that matter, he had a better year than the other CBs too. But Fred is a veteran who knows how to start at the spot.
We need help here, plain and simple.
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Got a few questions here:

Since when did Brees not have ability? Brees has the ability to get his receivers the ball, to not back-peddle 25 yards before throwing the ball out of bounds or to the opposing team, and the abilty to play SMART football. All of this is VERY unlike his predecessor, Aaron Brooks.

Joe is definitely #1 if healthy. I don't see both guys receving for over 1,000 with so many other weapons available, such as Bush, McCallister, and Hilton. When does youth and speed with questionable pass-catching skills overcome an all-pro caliber wide receiver?

Thomas at Dtackle? Have you been reading the reports that Peyton isn't very happy with his play in camp right now? Whitehead and Woodard seem to already have the upper hand here. I'd even start Young over Thomas.

Does anyone else besides TheDeuce and myself realize that Bockwoldt pretty much blows? Sure he's a Cinderella story being a 7th rounder, but the only reason he's started at all is because the rest of the Saints linebackers were awful. Obviously, you haven't been paying much attention to how this NEW coach is approaching the team with his philosophy. LAST YEAR DOESN'T COUNT!!!! Bockwoldt will be lucky to find the field on anything other than special teams this year. The signing of Polley and Foreman and Fincher leap-frogging Bockwoldt on the depth chart spells utter doom for good ol' Colby.

And finally....HOW IN THE NAME OF THE ALMIGHTY DO YOU FORGET WILL SMITH? That question should be self-explanatory.

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I have been on the Colby Bockwalt sucks thing since the begging of last season ....... Polley, Simmons, Fujita thats a Starting LB crew i like to see...!!
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Alright here it is...... possible starters....

QB-Drew Brees - after breakin his arm of and the doctors sewing it back on he should have a great season ..

RB- DeuceislooseMcallister-With bush and bennet helpin with the carries we will have a rejuvinated deuce lets see some of those 20yrd runs again !!! whoaa ! !!

FB- Mike Karney - solid blocker and getting better lets see him do more than block this year throw him some passes hand him the balll .........

WR1-Joe Horn- 4 time pro bowler Joe Horn yes 4 time pro bowler joe horn had a horrible season last year look for him to return to his old form and when i say that i mean 1000+ 10TDs .....

WR-2 Donte Stallworth- After having his best season as a Saints he wants to come back and show every 1 that he is ready to step up and contribute to the team we are talking long ball !!! TD !!!

TE-Zach Hilton-Tall makes him a big target but lets see what he offers to use this year conwell well exactly...

LT- Jammal Brown- Hes an animal and proctecting brees blind side he is in safe hands....

RT- Stinchomb- didnt play last year probly would have gave gandy run 4 his money so i think he will fill the shoes at RT

LG- Holland- GREAT run blocker and he will be a solid lineman on the saints this season

RG- Mayberry- Wasnt really surprised on him last year but he will be able to prove use wrong this season

C- Jeff Faine- Veteren player we got from browns he will fill in the shoes of Bently that BIG SHOES to fill...

LE- Charles Grant- after a sucking season he will come back strong lests see some more sacks....

RE- Will Smith- Need i say more....

DT- Whille Whitehead- he has been on the saints 4 ever and he is a good player he will be the starter

DT- Cedric Woodard- Helps out the horrible run d we have looking 4 him to start....

LB- Anthony Simmons- I think he will be a key to the Defense he can be a great player if he is healthy and im looking 4 him to be healthy we tlaking pro bowl.... when the last time saints had a pro bowl LB...........

LB- Fujita- comes in looking to start 4 the team fills us a weak position we had last year.....

LB-Colby Bockwalt-will not start !!!!<<<<<Tommy Polley Solid starter
(dont forget about FINCH!)

CB-Mike Mckienze- 1 int. last year needs to step up because we are low on the CB spot...

CB-Fred Thomas- Like this guy maybe can be a good starting CB (led team lsat year in passes Defended)

SS- bullocks has a good seson last year as a rookie cant wait 4 this season

FS-Smith - The best saftey we have and playmaker !

3-4 .... hmmmmm Dome Patrol ? ? ?
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IM just sscrewing around........ no need for all that indepth crap.........
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