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WHODATNJ 06-29-2006 02:09 PM

NFL Network
 
Well some may love the NFL channel but I am a little sceptical on their intentions. We all love football and most of us cant function without it. I may be absolutely wrong but I want to throw something out there for an interesting discussion. As most people know pay per view wrestling and boxing etc. bring in millions. These are about the only sports that dont broadcast special events live to a free audience. Imagine having to pay a subscription to watch your favorite NFL team on Sunday! At first you could listen to NFL games online NFL.com when your team was away. Now you have to pay for it. NFL.com realized that people would pay so they gave us Field Pass and make millions with it. I can see this network doing the same once they get things going. This is for open discussion only. I am not throwing out a conspiracy theory.

TallySaint 06-29-2006 02:18 PM

You're getting NFL Network free?



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WHODATNJ 06-29-2006 02:30 PM

You get it with digital cable in NJ. I would have to get satelite here in BR to get it. My concern is not paying for cable or sat. to get the network with a particular package. I am concerned about them eventually turning into a PPV network.

jergensl 06-29-2006 02:42 PM

i pay for direct tv so i can see every saints game.

saintswhodi 06-29-2006 02:52 PM

I doubt they could turn NFL network into a PPV channel. No one would "pay" to watch Total Access. I think they already know that.

Another thing is, football is a seasonal sport, boxing isn't. Boxing is year round, but in order for them to be able to pay the boxers so much for a fight, they have to put it on PPV. How else is Mike Tyson gonna earn 5 mil to fight Frank Bruno? As far as wrestling goes, theyhave been doing pay per views forever. It used to be 3-4 a year, now it's 3-4 a month it seems. That's ALL about making money. The NFL has no need for suck a gimmick. One, the stadiums seat upwards of 60,000, as opposed to 15,000-20,000 to watch wrestling or boxing. And the cost to go to a game is higher than to attend those events, except for maybe front row at a big boxing match. . AND, the NFL makes money off of 32 teams, for 16 games apiece, which makes 512 regular season money making opportunities for the NFL. That's outside of pre-season, the playoffs, and the superbowl. Not to mention, the billions they got in TV deals. And this is outside of merchandise sales. The NFL makes so much more money than any other sport out there, they have no need to change NFL Netwrk in that manner. I don't see it ever happening.

TallySaint 06-29-2006 03:44 PM

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You get it with digital cable in NJ
Same here. So I guess I would be paying for it. NFL Net sticks it to Comcast, Comcast sticks it to me....






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hagan714 06-29-2006 04:18 PM

comcast carries the net here in boston. Soon the games will be on a pay per view through cale as soon as direct satillite losses the contract.

NOSaints 06-29-2006 06:11 PM

I pay for DirecTV, then I pay for NFL ticket, then I pay an HD fee so I can watch the Saints in HD with Super fan. When you add all that up and divide by the number of games I see, it amounts to PPV pricing per game. If I didn't need to watch the Saints, I could get a pirate cable box and crack cable, so I am paying a pretty penny for each Saints game, and it is worth it, especially this year.

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saintswhodi 06-29-2006 06:33 PM

I "know someone" who is gonna try to get their programming card "expanded upon" in order to get NFL Sunday Ticket for free. This someone does not have the phone line hooked up for DirecTv. I'll let ya'll know how that goes, for them. :D

MatthewT 06-29-2006 06:50 PM

The NFL may eventually try pay per view, for now, I do not see it happening. The TV revenue is too good, but eventually that may dry out. No big deal for me, I would no longer watch NFL football if it came to that. Just like I do not watch boxing because of pay per view. When boxing was on ABC back in the days, I would watch every match. Now, forget it.

Whodi- Good luck with getting your cracked card. Just make sure you watch your step. DirecTv has been out to get people for a few years now.

BJSim 06-29-2006 07:00 PM

DirectTV has a sweet deal (for themselves), and would be crazy to not keep re-uping their deal with the NFL. I'm in the same boat as NOSaints, I pay DirectTV for the Sunday Ticket. If I didn't watch the afternoon games it comes to $22 per game ($209 ST + $99 HD / 14 games). I say 14 because one or two are primetime (non-ST) and one is usually local. Season tickets for the Saints (nosebleeds) are less than that per game.

Back to the beginning post, I doubt NFL network would go PPV. It's a year round advertisement for the league and "your" local team. It's a money maker that is continuing to grow each year. Now with the addition of regular season games and an expanded Sunday Night recap show, watch them position themselves as a player in the next round of TV negotiations. I wouldn't be surprised if come the next negotiations, they take back Sunday or Monday night games as thier own.

Tobias-Reiper 06-29-2006 07:17 PM

... technically speaking, the NFL Ticket is pay per view. You pay a fee to watch a game that is not aired in your area. I guess the concern would be with local games that otherwise are televized by the networks and you can view for free. I personally don't think that the NFL will underatke the production of 600+ games a year on their own, simply because of the cost of doing so. Economically, it makes more sense to the NFL to get money from the networks for the rights to air the games. In the future, who knows, but that's a distant future, I think.

Tobias-Reiper 06-29-2006 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
I "know someone" who is gonna try to get their programming card "expanded upon" in order to get NFL Sunday Ticket for free. This someone does not have the phone line hooked up for DirecTv. I'll let ya'll know how that goes, for them. :D

Tell your acquaintance not to spend too much money on a hacked card. Hacked cards get routinely corrupted/wiped out by DirecTV every couple of weeks or so, with or without the phone line. The code comes in with the satellite data stream. While the card may be reprogrammed - depending on the level of the ECM - after the ECM, I'm sure the guy who's expanding your acquaintance's card doesn't give unlimited re-programs.

xan 06-29-2006 08:47 PM

I think it will all go towards ppv. The advertising model is somewhat suspect, and with cable/satellite and TiVo, one can effectively bypass the ad-model, which won't take long to saturate the US. Ultimately the NFL is doing what all good broadcasters do, give it away for free, increase the product offerings, then make us pay. Soccer does it, NBA does it, soon the NFL will be doing it. Too much at risk after this current tv contract is up not to have that seque.

saintswhodi 06-29-2006 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT
The NFL may eventually try pay per view, for now, I do not see it happening. The TV revenue is too good, but eventually that may dry out. No big deal for me, I would no longer watch NFL football if it came to that. Just like I do not watch boxing because of pay per view. When boxing was on ABC back in the days, I would watch every match. Now, forget it.

Whodi- Good luck with getting your cracked card. Just make sure you watch your step. DirecTv has been out to get people for a few years now.

WTF?!??!?!?! Where did you get the idea it was mine? I know not of what you speak. :-)

hagan714 06-30-2006 09:06 AM

MLB, NHL, NBA all have done it on cable with little or no impact to TV revenue. It will be a season package not a game by game deal. buy the NFL not a team. It will happen. Direct will lose out big time and the NFL will win big.

mikesaintfan 07-02-2006 10:43 AM

i gotta have my sunday ticket...its why i got direct tv and why i still have it after 10+ years

LordOfEntropy 07-02-2006 01:52 PM

Especially now that HD is out. I can't watch a game in SD anymore.

CHACHING 07-03-2006 11:13 AM

Hey...if you guys call Directtv and complain about the price of the superfan option(HD),
they'll give it to ya for a forth the price...I do it every year..

LordOfEntropy 07-03-2006 01:49 PM

Nice. The problem for me now is that I no longer live in New Orleans. As such, I can't get any of the games here at all, none of them, unless I do the full-blown NFL package. When I was still in New Olreans, at least there I had the option of getting all the away gamesin HD, for free, over a standard HD antenna. But that's no longer the case, unfortunately. Looks like I'll have to pony up the $$.

So how much is the NFL pacakge running these days?

BJSim 07-03-2006 02:18 PM

Basic Sunday Ticket = $209+
HD "Super Fan" = $99

But if you don't have DirectTV see what thier deal is. I got my first year of Sunday Ticket for free for signing up for DirectTV & thier premium channel package, which I dropped at the end of the NFL season.

LordOfEntropy 07-04-2006 12:16 PM

Thnx BJSim. The prices sound the same as I remember. DirectTV requires a view of the soutwest sky, unless things have changed since I last had it. I'm temporarily in this north-facing apartment complex -- I'm hosed until my new house is complete (under construction, completion still half a year away). So it's hopeless, I think, for this season. I'll find out, regardless.

saintswhodi 07-04-2006 04:59 PM

Instead of 5 payments for my Sunday Ticket I got them to do it in 7. That's about the only deal they'd give me., which isn't really a deal, but it's easier to explain $30 more on my DirecTv bill to thw wife than $45 for some reason.

LordOfEntropy 07-04-2006 11:34 PM

No kidding. When mine is $45 higher than normal, she always suspects I've been watching Jenna Jameson again. With no cause, or course. :)


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