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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by along Having two damn good backs with a O-line that can't block for them is like having nothing. I wanted to give the OLine some love. I keep reading quotes like this one above or "the OLine ...

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Old 08-08-2006, 08:01 AM   #1
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The Offensive line.

Originally Posted by along
Having two damn good backs with a O-line that can't block
for them is like having nothing.
I wanted to give the OLine some love. I keep reading quotes like this one above or "the OLine is going to be Brees killed."

If we operate on the presumption that players can stay healthy, the 2006 Saints O-Line is not the disaster I keep reading about:

1) LT - Jamaal Brown. Moving from RT to LT doesn't mean the guy still isn't a stud. He has the skills to become a ProBowl LT in this league. It may take some time for him to gel, but he's going to give Abraham, Peppers, and Rice all they'll want to see. Clearly an upgrade over Gandy.

2) LG - Montrae Holland. You'd think this guy was a rookie or something. He's started 23 games in the position the last 2 years on a line that has done extremely well over that span.

3) C - Jeff Faine. Former 1st round pick. You should here how Cleveland fans are crying for him now that Bentley is hurt. He has two trouble spots: nose tackle and injuries. The NFC doesn't have many nose tackles. Let's hope that injuries don't visit him.

4) RG - Jermaine Mayberry. 10 year vet. Pro Bowl guard for Philly in 2002. Held the position down well last year.

5) RT - Well now here's the hole. Obviously since this was Brown's position last year, anyone else is going to be a downgrade. Stinchcomb can't seem to get well. Nesbit is a journeyman, and Strief is a promising rookie, but a rookie nontheless. It's unclear who is going to step up.

So barring injury, 4 of the 5 positions on the line are solid. FoxSports gives me some agreement in this article:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5794000

ranking the Saints' line 17th in the league. Believe me if the Saints can hold anywhere near that position, the offense will be spactacular. Here's the quote:

Originally Posted by FoxSports
17. New Orleans Saints

New coach, new system, new training camp site ... after one of the weirdest and most tragedy-filled seasons any team has ever endured, in which their city was almost wiped off the map, the Saints are looking to bounce back with the draft's biggest prize and one of the most impressive free agents. Up front, who will be creating lanes for Reggie Bush and Drew Brees? Center Jeff Faine, acquired from Cleveland in a draft-day trade, is a smart and quick player whose lack of prototypical size (291 pounds) has him getting overwhelmed by big men at times. 2004 Outland Trophy winner Jamaal Brown will be moving from right to left tackle this season, and the Saints will need Brown to continue his development. He has elite potential.
So I believe that while the line isn't perfect, it'll certainly be good enough to function in 2006.

SFIAH

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Old 08-08-2006, 11:55 AM   #2
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RE: The Offensive line.

RT is the only real problem. And Nesbit is a decent stop-gap. He played it well last year and has dropped 12 pounds this off-season to help his quickness.

After only 2 weeks of camp did anyone think our O-line was going to be the 90's Cowboys?
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words/reading is one thing but performance is another...
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Re: RE: The Offensive line.

Originally Posted by Euphoria
words/reading is one thing but performance is another...
I don't disagree with that assessment. However, I do have a problem in the thinking that the offensive line is going to be so pourous that the offense won't be able to get anything done. We have starters in this league. We have 1st rounders. We have players who have been to the Pro Bowl.

Some fantasy site had the Saints line ranked 32nd out of 32 teams. Even on paper I don't believe that.

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agreed the first few games might be sickening but i think it will hold together and gel pretty quickly. Baring injuries to more than two starts at a time.
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Our line might be ok once they work together under a new coaching staff and having a very good quick release QB and the double threat in the backfied..
Wait & see I guess, I'm hoping for the best...
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Re: The Offensive line.

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
Originally Posted by along
Having two damn good backs with a O-line that can't block
for them is like having nothing.
I wanted to give the OLine some love. I keep reading quotes like this one above or "the OLine is going to be Brees killed."

If we operate on the presumption that players can stay healthy, the 2006 Saints O-Line is not the disaster I keep reading about:

1) LT - Jamaal Brown. Moving from RT to LT doesn't mean the guy still isn't a stud. He has the skills to become a ProBowl LT in this league. It may take some time for him to gel, but he's going to give Abraham, Peppers, and Rice all they'll want to see. Clearly an upgrade over Gandy.

2) LG - Montrae Holland. You'd think this guy was a rookie or something. He's started 23 games in the position the last 2 years on a line that has done extremely well over that span.

3) C - Jeff Faine. Former 1st round pick. You should here how Cleveland fans are crying for him now that Bentley is hurt. He has two trouble spots: nose tackle and injuries. The NFC doesn't have many nose tackles. Let's hope that injuries don't visit him.

4) RG - Jermaine Mayberry. 10 year vet. Pro Bowl guard for Philly in 2002. Held the position down well last year.

5) RT - Well now here's the hole. Obviously since this was Brown's position last year, anyone else is going to be a downgrade. Stinchcomb can't seem to get well. Nesbit is a journeyman, and Strief is a promising rookie, but a rookie nontheless. It's unclear who is going to step up.

So barring injury, 4 of the 5 positions on the line are solid. FoxSports gives me some agreement in this article:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5794000

ranking the Saints' line 17th in the league. Believe me if the Saints can hold anywhere near that position, the offense will be spactacular. Here's the quote:

Originally Posted by FoxSports
17. New Orleans Saints

New coach, new system, new training camp site ... after one of the weirdest and most tragedy-filled seasons any team has ever endured, in which their city was almost wiped off the map, the Saints are looking to bounce back with the draft's biggest prize and one of the most impressive free agents. Up front, who will be creating lanes for Reggie Bush and Drew Brees? Center Jeff Faine, acquired from Cleveland in a draft-day trade, is a smart and quick player whose lack of prototypical size (291 pounds) has him getting overwhelmed by big men at times. 2004 Outland Trophy winner Jamaal Brown will be moving from right to left tackle this season, and the Saints will need Brown to continue his development. He has elite potential.
So I believe that while the line isn't perfect, it'll certainly be good enough to function in 2006.

SFIAH
All that is find and good.

But C. Grant did have a outstanding scrimmage against them.
And the D-line sure did put enough pressure on Brees to have
him throw two INT's and no TD's.

Believe me when I say...I hope like hell everything I feel about
our O-line is BS.
I would be the happyest MF in the world if them Saints go on and win
the big one.


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