REAL Madden ratings

wheelman · 08-11-2006, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by jdiggy

Why the optimism for the Saints on Madden this year? Every year they undercut us.

We were 3-13 last season, and I always find that EA has a bias against our talent. We're always ranked in the 70's, and I expect no different this season.

I haven't played every edition, but have the Saints ever had a good team on Madden? That's the most frustrating part about playing with the Saints for me. I enjoy building the team through trades, and free agency; but can we please just get one season where we're kicking ass right out the gate?

I don't know, I just want the Saints to be recognized as a dominant (or even a decent) team represented on the game. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING!

The Saints were a beast in the old games.

saintswhodi · 08-11-2006, 08:38 AM

Anubody who would choose the garbage of that ESPN gameplay over Madden is nucking futz!! I bought ESPN two years ago to see that all the hype was about, before EA got the exclusing NFL license. I felt like I was playing 10 yard fight on nintendo. The guys moved in straight lines and there was nowhere close to the 360 degree of movement realism you find in Madden. It was brutal. I gave ESPN the nod in off the field stuff, cause if you had a hard drive for your PS2, you'd get the halftime highlights in motion, and crib mode was alright. And being able to decide how you wanted to structure contracts was great. But their gameplay was horrendous. Ugh. I traded that in for Madden the day Madden came out. Worst money I ever spent on a video game.

jergensl · 08-11-2006, 09:22 AM

general question:

what do i need to buy to play ps2 version of madden online?
is it worth it?
is playing on the PC online just as good?

i have been playing madden for years, but killing the AI gets boring after awhile.

saintswhodi · 08-11-2006, 09:42 AM

Are you killing the AI on All Madden? If you are, adjust the AI sliders. Just a thought....

At any rate, to play online on PS2 you need a network adaptor and of course an internet connection. And an ethernet cable. Then away you go. I've never thought playing a console sports game on PC was ever worthwhile, but some people swear by it. A matter of preference I guess.

thib82 · 08-11-2006, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by BJSim

thib82, trust me I know quite a few people would kick my can all over the place. I just found the game play basic in comparison to ESPN. And that was held up by the fact that four people who'd been playing the game for a year all lost to me on my first time playing it. It was "I play winner" so I never had to give it up. As I said, I'm no gamer, in fact I play my PS2 for the football season (football games of course) and maybe a few days a year besides that. Hell, my computer only has one game loaded onto it.

Sorry BJ, I thought you were saying that you could beat all challengers. I must have misread it.

FatiusJeebs · 08-11-2006, 11:34 AM

I agree with DJ. I have been playing the daylights out of NCAA 07 on my 360 and obviously I can't compare graphics but gameplay is still inferior to NFL 2K5. EA tends to make the AI in their games a little obvious. Also I have seen one too many "ghost" tackles in this game. Its like...the defender has generated so much Chi in his chest that right before he has a chance to touch the defender.....the defender is already being tackled and falling on the floor by some mystical force that is right in front of his chest and shoulder pads.. One thing I love is replay where you can clearly see these things happen. I still curse the day that EA got exclusivity. But I can't wait to see Madden on the 360 and I hope that EA actually got to create the NEW and IMPROVED dome.

saintswhodi · 08-11-2006, 12:07 PM

The NCAA gameplay has always been different than the Madden gameplay. There's no comparison. I would hope ESPN's gameplay would match NCAA's. sadly for me it didn't even reach that. Players don't run in straight lines. That's just too unreal.

FatiusJeebs · 08-11-2006, 12:24 PM

Wow....I guess we are playing 2 different games them. I am playing NCAA and there things occuring in that game that are flat out unforgivable. As far as technigue strategy and stuff like that of course its different (if thats what you mean by gameplay). I am speaking from the technical aspect....too many people walking through other people and coaches, ghost/dragonball z type tackles and kicks, subpar commentating....so on and so on.

DJLengai · 08-11-2006, 12:31 PM

Players don't run in straight lines. That's just too unreal.

They don't run like space men on the moon either. Madden's graphics on Xbox versus Sega's are terrible. Sega also added nice touches with fans, vendors, stadium shots, etc. Sega developed a lot of the moves first so they are laid out well, not in a catch-up fashion. Madden's players all look like The Thing they're so blocky. The overall gameplay in NFL 2K is much more smooth than Madden. Hopefully they hired some new game designers or changed the engine so the game can move forward. The QB vision ruined online play for me. It's total garbage (and not becuase I can't swing a big yellow cone around, which also gives the other player a huge heads up, and hit a receiver). It's redundant like I said before because QB ability is already in the stats for the player. If Madden 2007 has online ability to switch that junk off then I can at least live with the game. Madden does inflate players and cut others way too much. Also, they have no competition and keep releasing the game too early so rosters are wrong and players are mis-ranked (I know this is fixed with updates). I played Madden exclusively until 2001 when Dremacast's NFL 2K series was blowing Madden out of the water. If ESPN was able to compete and sell games for $19.99, we'd all be playing that with a few die-hard Madden people complaining all the time. We'll see what happens in 3 more years.

wheelman · 08-11-2006, 12:40 PM

You can't be serious. The animations in the 2k series were pathetic. Madden's were so much more realistic.

08-11-2006, 08:35 AM	#21
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	Originally Posted by jdiggy Why the optimism for the Saints on Madden this year? Every year they undercut us. We were 3-13 last season, and I always find that EA has a bias against our talent. We're always ranked in the 70's, and I expect no different this season. I haven't played every edition, but have the Saints ever had a good team on Madden? That's the most frustrating part about playing with the Saints for me. I enjoy building the team through trades, and free agency; but can we please just get one season where we're kicking ass right out the gate? I don't know, I just want the Saints to be recognized as a dominant (or even a decent) team represented on the game. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING! The Saints were a beast in the old games.
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08-11-2006, 11:12 AM	#25
thib82 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Carencro, LA Posts: 211	Originally Posted by BJSim thib82, trust me I know quite a few people would kick my can all over the place. I just found the game play basic in comparison to ESPN. And that was held up by the fact that four people who'd been playing the game for a year all lost to me on my first time playing it. It was "I play winner" so I never had to give it up. As I said, I'm no gamer, in fact I play my PS2 for the football season (football games of course) and maybe a few days a year besides that. Hell, my computer only has one game loaded onto it. Sorry BJ, I thought you were saying that you could beat all challengers. I must have misread it.

08-11-2006, 11:34 AM	#26
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	I agree with DJ. I have been playing the daylights out of NCAA 07 on my 360 and obviously I can't compare graphics but gameplay is still inferior to NFL 2K5. EA tends to make the AI in their games a little obvious. Also I have seen one too many "ghost" tackles in this game. Its like...the defender has generated so much Chi in his chest that right before he has a chance to touch the defender.....the defender is already being tackled and falling on the floor by some mystical force that is right in front of his chest and shoulder pads.. One thing I love is replay where you can clearly see these things happen. I still curse the day that EA got exclusivity. But I can't wait to see Madden on the 360 and I hope that EA actually got to create the NEW and IMPROVED dome.
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	BINGO!!

08-11-2006, 12:24 PM	#28
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	Wow....I guess we are playing 2 different games them. I am playing NCAA and there things occuring in that game that are flat out unforgivable. As far as technigue strategy and stuff like that of course its different (if thats what you mean by gameplay). I am speaking from the technical aspect....too many people walking through other people and coaches, ghost/dragonball z type tackles and kicks, subpar commentating....so on and so on.
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08-11-2006, 12:31 PM	#29
DJLengai 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 168	Players don't run in straight lines. That's just too unreal. They don't run like space men on the moon either. Madden's graphics on Xbox versus Sega's are terrible. Sega also added nice touches with fans, vendors, stadium shots, etc. Sega developed a lot of the moves first so they are laid out well, not in a catch-up fashion. Madden's players all look like The Thing they're so blocky. The overall gameplay in NFL 2K is much more smooth than Madden. Hopefully they hired some new game designers or changed the engine so the game can move forward. The QB vision ruined online play for me. It's total garbage (and not becuase I can't swing a big yellow cone around, which also gives the other player a huge heads up, and hit a receiver). It's redundant like I said before because QB ability is already in the stats for the player. If Madden 2007 has online ability to switch that junk off then I can at least live with the game. Madden does inflate players and cut others way too much. Also, they have no competition and keep releasing the game too early so rosters are wrong and players are mis-ranked (I know this is fixed with updates). I played Madden exclusively until 2001 when Dremacast's NFL 2K series was blowing Madden out of the water. If ESPN was able to compete and sell games for $19.99, we'd all be playing that with a few die-hard Madden people complaining all the time. We'll see what happens in 3 more years.
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08-11-2006, 08:38 AM	#22
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Anubody who would choose the garbage of that ESPN gameplay over Madden is nucking futz!! I bought ESPN two years ago to see that all the hype was about, before EA got the exclusing NFL license. I felt like I was playing 10 yard fight on nintendo. The guys moved in straight lines and there was nowhere close to the 360 degree of movement realism you find in Madden. It was brutal. I gave ESPN the nod in off the field stuff, cause if you had a hard drive for your PS2, you'd get the halftime highlights in motion, and crib mode was alright. And being able to decide how you wanted to structure contracts was great. But their gameplay was horrendous. Ugh. I traded that in for Madden the day Madden came out. Worst money I ever spent on a video game.

08-11-2006, 09:22 AM	#23
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	general question: what do i need to buy to play ps2 version of madden online? is it worth it? is playing on the PC online just as good? i have been playing madden for years, but killing the AI gets boring after awhile.

08-11-2006, 09:42 AM	#24
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Are you killing the AI on All Madden? If you are, adjust the AI sliders. Just a thought.... At any rate, to play online on PS2 you need a network adaptor and of course an internet connection. And an ethernet cable. Then away you go. I've never thought playing a console sports game on PC was ever worthwhile, but some people swear by it. A matter of preference I guess.

08-11-2006, 12:07 PM	#27
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	The NCAA gameplay has always been different than the Madden gameplay. There's no comparison. I would hope ESPN's gameplay would match NCAA's. sadly for me it didn't even reach that. Players don't run in straight lines. That's just too unreal.

08-11-2006, 12:40 PM	#30
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	You can't be serious. The animations in the 2k series were pathetic. Madden's were so much more realistic.
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