Stop the whining

saintsrule · 08-23-2006, 01:40 AM

The weird part is. if the Saints had won the game 30-7, people would be saying "it is only preseason, and this win doesn't count". Well, this lost doesn't count either. Just let them play the season, and be happy that the team is still here.

FatiusJeebs · 08-23-2006, 07:52 AM

Saintsrule you make a valid point. The only thing that concerns me though is that our first team was down 17-0 by the end of the half. Now I know its preseason but...still....I'm a little concerned by that. I'm sure with planning and adjustments the Saints could have mustered some 2nd half action if this was a regular season game but like I said....it was just bugging me to see that we had the ball for like a total of 4 minutes in the entire first half.

hagan714 · 08-23-2006, 08:29 AM

give me another beer is all I can say. put on the rose colored glasses and all is fine in la la land.

patdog · 08-23-2006, 10:54 AM

You Know with all the bad plays, the 3 and outs, drop passes, missed tackles, the thing that pissed me off the most was the play of Jammell Brown. I mean if the DE is faster then him and go's around him I can understand, but he was going bullrushs all nite. And trust me, if he can't handle Dallas DE he can't handle the DE in the NFC South. So tell me is that whinning?

TallySaint · 08-23-2006, 10:59 AM

... if this were Payton's 3rd year, ok. I'd complain too.

But it's his first year as a head coach, with players he's getting to know and players who are getting to know the coaches, with players learning new offense and defense schemes.

... wait at least until week five o start whining.

Quit whining about the whining.

8)

nedly · 08-23-2006, 03:21 PM

I figure that this team will struggle to find themselves on the offensive line, defense and special teams four about half of the season. There's a lot of new players and coaches, and new plays to develop. we may need to pick up another DT as well as Edwards at linebacker, but nonetheless this team will be much better than what they looked like against Dallas. The players they do have will get better or else! Haslett's not the coach anymore, so if we struggle, changes will be made for the better.

TheGambler · 08-24-2006, 10:00 AM

Last year after the Saints's emotional opening win over Carolina, I took a trip to one of the Panthers's forums, and bear in mind the Panthers had lost by THREE FREAKIN POINTS to a team who was playing that day for an entire Gulf Coast region.........and I was amazed at all the gloom and doom everyone was spouting. "It's gonna be a looonnnggg season", among other things was being thrown around.

Carolina wound up going to the NFC title game.

Obviously I'm not compariing this year's Saints to last year's Panthers, but let's not start writing the season off just yet based on a preseason loss to a fairly decent Cowboys team.

One other thing: didn't the 2000 season division-winning Saints start the season 1-3 ?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-24-2006, 03:43 PM

One other thing: didn't the 2000 season division-winning Saints start the season 1-3 ?

They did.

My assessment is that anything will be better than the inconsistent, turnover filled, mistake ridden football we've seen from the Saints of late. I can live with the team losing if they are playing smart, competitive football.

I believe we're going to need another year of player and system acquisistion before you see a great jump in wins.

SFIAH

LSUJeremy · 08-24-2006, 04:07 PM

I'll be happy this year with a competitive team that actually makes me want to watch every Sunday unlike the way I've felt the last couple of years.

kingwoodfan · 08-25-2006, 12:17 AM

It's good to see some people realize what a joke the outcome of preason games really is!

08-23-2006, 01:40 AM	#11
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	RE: Re: Stop the whining The weird part is. if the Saints had won the game 30-7, people would be saying "it is only preseason, and this win doesn't count". Well, this lost doesn't count either. Just let them play the season, and be happy that the team is still here.
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08-23-2006, 07:52 AM	#12
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	RE: Re: Stop the whining Saintsrule you make a valid point. The only thing that concerns me though is that our first team was down 17-0 by the end of the half. Now I know its preseason but...still....I'm a little concerned by that. I'm sure with planning and adjustments the Saints could have mustered some 2nd half action if this was a regular season game but like I said....it was just bugging me to see that we had the ball for like a total of 4 minutes in the entire first half.
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08-23-2006, 08:29 AM	#13
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Re: Stop the whining give me another beer is all I can say. put on the rose colored glasses and all is fine in la la land.

08-23-2006, 10:54 AM	#14
patdog 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: westwego La Posts: 194	RE: Re: Stop the whining You Know with all the bad plays, the 3 and outs, drop passes, missed tackles, the thing that pissed me off the most was the play of Jammell Brown. I mean if the DE is faster then him and go's around him I can understand, but he was going bullrushs all nite. And trust me, if he can't handle Dallas DE he can't handle the DE in the NFC South. So tell me is that whinning?

08-23-2006, 10:59 AM	#15
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	... if this were Payton's 3rd year, ok. I'd complain too. But it's his first year as a head coach, with players he's getting to know and players who are getting to know the coaches, with players learning new offense and defense schemes. ... wait at least until week five o start whining. Quit whining about the whining. 8)

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nedly Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 72	patience Saint's fans! I figure that this team will struggle to find themselves on the offensive line, defense and special teams four about half of the season. There's a lot of new players and coaches, and new plays to develop. we may need to pick up another DT as well as Edwards at linebacker, but nonetheless this team will be much better than what they looked like against Dallas. The players they do have will get better or else! Haslett's not the coach anymore, so if we struggle, changes will be made for the better.
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08-24-2006, 10:00 AM	#17
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Last year after the Saints's emotional opening win over Carolina, I took a trip to one of the Panthers's forums, and bear in mind the Panthers had lost by THREE FREAKIN POINTS to a team who was playing that day for an entire Gulf Coast region.........and I was amazed at all the gloom and doom everyone was spouting. "It's gonna be a looonnnggg season", among other things was being thrown around. Carolina wound up going to the NFC title game. Obviously I'm not compariing this year's Saints to last year's Panthers, but let's not start writing the season off just yet based on a preseason loss to a fairly decent Cowboys team. One other thing: didn't the 2000 season division-winning Saints start the season 1-3 ?
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08-24-2006, 03:43 PM	#18
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	One other thing: didn't the 2000 season division-winning Saints start the season 1-3 ? They did. My assessment is that anything will be better than the inconsistent, turnover filled, mistake ridden football we've seen from the Saints of late. I can live with the team losing if they are playing smart, competitive football. I believe we're going to need another year of player and system acquisistion before you see a great jump in wins. SFIAH

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LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	I'll be happy this year with a competitive team that actually makes me want to watch every Sunday unlike the way I've felt the last couple of years.
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08-25-2006, 12:17 AM	#20
kingwoodfan Rookie Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12	It's good to see some people realize what a joke the outcome of preason games really is!
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