Harper?????

D24pick · 09-11-2006, 11:18 PM

Whatever whodi, he's a rookie and he dominated Winslow until the very end

One of those calls were BS, and he still put up better #'s towards Winslow, if he wouldn't have stuck Winslow good Kellen would have more yards and more than that TD

BlackandBlue · 09-11-2006, 11:19 PM

i agree. i wanted mcneill. and i also agree that winslow threw harper around like a rag doll. but he stayed physical with the guy, despite being outweighed by 50 pounds (and you know that's all muscle, winslow is a speciman). donnie edwards would have been a much better option against winslow, if we had him on the roster.

saintswhodi · 09-11-2006, 11:52 PM

I WILL give him that, he did not back down. I never said he didn't have heart. But all that heart didn't keep him from having his lunch handed to him. Not one thing he did makes me feel like he was better than several other guys we could have gotten. He has 15 more games to change my mind. TEs we will face: Franks, Crumpler(2x), Miller, Heap. So we will get a chance to see what he can do. A lot of guys have heart and get it handed to them. MAybe by the end of the year Harper won't be one of those guys, but right now, he's bowing at the feet of Winslow, a guy who is basically a rookie himself. Three games? 2 games before yesterday? Come on.

saintsrule · 09-12-2006, 12:46 AM

I think the coaches know what to do.

RockyMountainSaint · 09-12-2006, 01:24 AM

i don't care what you say, i can only see a select handful of safeties that could play winslow with success, and they're all pro-bowl selections

Amen Brother!
Winslow is and will continue to be an absolute nightmare for LBs and Safeties.
I can't stand the guy given his past.
Could I stop him?
Not likely.
Most defensive players who draw the assignment of stopping Winslow will also feel pain.
My concern is that Harper seemed to want to deliver hits in run support instead of tackling the ball-carrier.
That won't work in the NFL as many rookies before him had to find out for themselves.
Hopefully he will learn to wrap up the RB and tackle him.
BTW, I believe Winslow will make many Safeties and LBs look foolish for years to come.
The dude is a freak.

biloxi-indian · 09-12-2006, 06:20 AM

whoodi may be right about Winslow, but one thing is for sure I sure wish the Saints had him as their tight end today! Being from the U, he is not on my most popular persons list, but the kid can play (right pedigree as well).

saintswhodi · 09-12-2006, 09:00 AM

Where are people getting this overblown impression of Winslow? From College? The dude has played THREE GAMES in the NFL, including ours. Ryan Leaf dominated in college too. And Winslow is coming off a broken leg in his first year, and shredding his leg in a motorcycle accident in his second. Damn, people need to remove their NCAA 2004 impressions of Winslow and see him for what he really is. A guy who COULD be good, but has played in 3 games out of 33 in his career. Anybody got any footage of Winslow dominating NFL safeties besides Harper? No? Prob cause there is none.

TallySaint · 09-12-2006, 09:17 AM

Where are people getting this overblown impression of Winslow? From College? The dude has played THREE GAMES in the NFL, including ours.

I sure hope that Reggie Bush guy turns out to be a good one.

8)

saintswhodi · 09-12-2006, 10:25 AM

There's a good chance he will be without twice having his season ended and having a poor attitude.

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RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	i don't care what you say, i can only see a select handful of safeties that could play winslow with success, and they're all pro-bowl selections Amen Brother! Winslow is and will continue to be an absolute nightmare for LBs and Safeties. I can't stand the guy given his past. Could I stop him? Not likely. Most defensive players who draw the assignment of stopping Winslow will also feel pain. My concern is that Harper seemed to want to deliver hits in run support instead of tackling the ball-carrier. That won't work in the NFL as many rookies before him had to find out for themselves. Hopefully he will learn to wrap up the RB and tackle him. BTW, I believe Winslow will make many Safeties and LBs look foolish for years to come. The dude is a freak.
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09-11-2006, 11:19 PM	#12
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	i agree. i wanted mcneill. and i also agree that winslow threw harper around like a rag doll. but he stayed physical with the guy, despite being outweighed by 50 pounds (and you know that's all muscle, winslow is a speciman). donnie edwards would have been a much better option against winslow, if we had him on the roster.

09-11-2006, 11:52 PM	#13
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I WILL give him that, he did not back down. I never said he didn't have heart. But all that heart didn't keep him from having his lunch handed to him. Not one thing he did makes me feel like he was better than several other guys we could have gotten. He has 15 more games to change my mind. TEs we will face: Franks, Crumpler(2x), Miller, Heap. So we will get a chance to see what he can do. A lot of guys have heart and get it handed to them. MAybe by the end of the year Harper won't be one of those guys, but right now, he's bowing at the feet of Winslow, a guy who is basically a rookie himself. Three games? 2 games before yesterday? Come on.

09-12-2006, 06:20 AM	#16
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	whoodi may be right about Winslow, but one thing is for sure I sure wish the Saints had him as their tight end today! Being from the U, he is not on my most popular persons list, but the kid can play (right pedigree as well).

09-12-2006, 09:00 AM	#17
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Where are people getting this overblown impression of Winslow? From College? The dude has played THREE GAMES in the NFL, including ours. Ryan Leaf dominated in college too. And Winslow is coming off a broken leg in his first year, and shredding his leg in a motorcycle accident in his second. Damn, people need to remove their NCAA 2004 impressions of Winslow and see him for what he really is. A guy who COULD be good, but has played in 3 games out of 33 in his career. Anybody got any footage of Winslow dominating NFL safeties besides Harper? No? Prob cause there is none.

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TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Where are people getting this overblown impression of Winslow? From College? The dude has played THREE GAMES in the NFL, including ours. I sure hope that Reggie Bush guy turns out to be a good one. 8)

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	There's a good chance he will be without twice having his season ended and having a poor attitude.