Not very impressed with the saints

xan · 10-10-2006, 03:12 PM

T-R, you're right. Philly has come by their record by whomping inferior teams and losing to a team they were "supposed" to, just like the Saints against Carolina. This may not be a make or break game, but it will be a serious test to see whether this team can maintain focus at home (where we've been lacking the last 5 years) and intensity against a team that has a lot of confidence in itself. This is an eminently winnable game as long as everyone's on the same page.

oneputtmike · 10-10-2006, 04:26 PM

Who is kick returner anyway and what does he think our record should be? There4-1 be happy they got a great chance to be 10-6 at the end of the season depending on how thing fall and who gets or doesn't get injuryed in the nfl.

mjf150 · 10-10-2006, 04:30 PM

Me thinks "TheGambler" hath returned under the moniker of "fhs623".

oneputtmike · 10-10-2006, 04:40 PM

You may have something there mjf150

fhs623 · 10-10-2006, 06:15 PM

i'm not THEGAMBLER...don't know who that is

D_it_up · 10-10-2006, 06:30 PM

Heck, are the Eagles "for real"? They were 6-10 last year -oh yeah, that was T.O.'s fault. One guy not even in the State of Pennsylvania, sure... - This year, they have the same record as the Saints, and they have beaten the Texans (1-4), the whiners (1-4), the Packers (1-4), and the Cowboys (2-2), all while squandering a 20-some point lead AT HOME against the Giants (2-2).

EXCELLENT argument! The Saints at least have beaten a team that has a winning record right now. Philly looks extremely vulnerable to me. Key in on Westbrook and McNabb, and that offense can be shut down. The defense is o.k., but nothing to brag about other than Trotter and Dawkins. This game could be VERY interesting.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-12-2006, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by fhs623

Look, all i'm saying is i'm not falling into the trap anymore...i just want to see if we can sustain this level of play for the entire season against the best of the nfl.

Somehow you've acquired the impression that a team can simply turn on greatness. You want the Saints to be like the Bears.

But teams like the Bears didn't just appear. Last year they were 11-5. They were the #1 scoring defense in all the NFL last year. They were also in the top 10 in rushing the ball last year. They didn't appear from nowhere.

The Saints are a work in progress. You have a completely new coaching staff and 24 players who were not on the squad last year.

If you want to see how tough it can be simply take a look at last week's opponent. Tampa won the NFC South with an 11-5 record last year. They have won the Super Bowl this decade. They cannot even buy a game this year.

The Saints are going to be shaky and fitful. In several areas we still don't have superior talent. I presume that when upcoming drafts and free agent acquisitions this will change over the next several years.

But what we have is a team that doesn't give up and finds ways to win. I was more impressed with the Saints with the loss in Carolina than in the wins. Down 21-10, Saints teams of the past would have conceeded the game. This team plunks an 8 spot on Carolina and are an onsides kick of getting back in the game.

Domination isn't instantaneous. You need talent, scheme, and time to get to dominance.

SFIAH

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oneputtmike Registered Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 86	RE: Re: RE: Not very impressed with the saints Who is kick returner anyway and what does he think our record should be? There4-1 be happy they got a great chance to be 10-6 at the end of the season depending on how thing fall and who gets or doesn't get injuryed in the nfl.
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10-10-2006, 04:30 PM	#33
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 716	RE: Re: RE: Not very impressed with the saints Me thinks "TheGambler" hath returned under the moniker of "fhs623".
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oneputtmike Registered Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 86	RE: Re: RE: Not very impressed with the saints You may have something there mjf150
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10-12-2006, 08:14 AM	#37
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: RE: Not very impressed with the saints Originally Posted by fhs623 Look, all i'm saying is i'm not falling into the trap anymore...i just want to see if we can sustain this level of play for the entire season against the best of the nfl. Somehow you've acquired the impression that a team can simply turn on greatness. You want the Saints to be like the Bears. But teams like the Bears didn't just appear. Last year they were 11-5. They were the #1 scoring defense in all the NFL last year. They were also in the top 10 in rushing the ball last year. They didn't appear from nowhere. The Saints are a work in progress. You have a completely new coaching staff and 24 players who were not on the squad last year. If you want to see how tough it can be simply take a look at last week's opponent. Tampa won the NFC South with an 11-5 record last year. They have won the Super Bowl this decade. They cannot even buy a game this year. The Saints are going to be shaky and fitful. In several areas we still don't have superior talent. I presume that when upcoming drafts and free agent acquisitions this will change over the next several years. But what we have is a team that doesn't give up and finds ways to win. I was more impressed with the Saints with the loss in Carolina than in the wins. Down 21-10, Saints teams of the past would have conceeded the game. This team plunks an 8 spot on Carolina and are an onsides kick of getting back in the game. Domination isn't instantaneous. You need talent, scheme, and time to get to dominance. SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

10-10-2006, 03:12 PM	#31
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	T-R, you're right. Philly has come by their record by whomping inferior teams and losing to a team they were "supposed" to, just like the Saints against Carolina. This may not be a make or break game, but it will be a serious test to see whether this team can maintain focus at home (where we've been lacking the last 5 years) and intensity against a team that has a lot of confidence in itself. This is an eminently winnable game as long as everyone's on the same page.

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10-10-2006, 06:30 PM	#36
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Heck, are the Eagles "for real"? They were 6-10 last year -oh yeah, that was T.O.'s fault. One guy not even in the State of Pennsylvania, sure... - This year, they have the same record as the Saints, and they have beaten the Texans (1-4), the whiners (1-4), the Packers (1-4), and the Cowboys (2-2), all while squandering a 20-some point lead AT HOME against the Giants (2-2). EXCELLENT argument! The Saints at least have beaten a team that has a winning record right now. Philly looks extremely vulnerable to me. Key in on Westbrook and McNabb, and that offense can be shut down. The defense is o.k., but nothing to brag about other than Trotter and Dawkins. This game could be VERY interesting.