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BillyCarpenter1 05-23-2003 10:00 AM

Keyuo Craver??
Dale Carter has been in the leauge for 11 years and Ambrose for 12 years. Not too many cornerbacks play that well after being in the leauge that long. Maybe they do or do not have a couple more good years left in them. I think Keyuo Craver showed signs that he can be a very good cornerback in the NFL. I think experience is sometimes overrated. Of course experience does help but if you can't get there it doesn't help much to have experience. If either of our starting cornerbacks struggles early, I would put Keyou in.

BlackandBlue 05-23-2003 10:11 AM

Keyuo Craver??

Of course experience does help but if you can\'t get there it doesn\'t help much to have experience.
Did you mean that if you can\'t get there, then you don\'t have experience at all? That\'s the way I see it. And experience goes a long way- otherwise, players like Bryan Cox would have been forced into retirement 5 years ago. All I know about Craver is what limited action I saw last year and what the coaching staff feeds us. I\'d still force him to earn a starting spot.

BillyCarpenter1 05-23-2003 10:19 AM

Keyuo Craver??
What i mean is that speed at cornerback is very important at the cornerback position. Experience does help but if you don\'t have the speed to keep up with a guy then experience is going to help you catch up with a receiver. And as for as Brian Cox what has he done?

BlackandBlue 05-23-2003 10:34 AM

Keyuo Craver??
Bryan Cox Career Statistics

Tackles- 938 (680 solo; 258 assists)
Sacks- 51.5
Sack Yardage- 197
Forced fumbles- 22
Interceptions- 4
Hey, man, you asked.

Do not make the mistake of putting speed on a higher pedistal than experience for CB\'s. Experience keeps you from making a play on the ball when you know a flag will be thrown for pass interference. Experience is the difference between knowing where the ref\'s are in relation to where the play is, when and where not to give a little tug to the jersey, and the ability to read the quarterback. Experience is the difference between 4th-and-7 and a 15 yard penalty, 1st down.

BillyCarpenter1 05-23-2003 11:20 AM

Keyuo Craver??
If i have to have open heart surgery then i will take an experienced surgeon. But if i need to keep the ball out of the hands of a receiver give me a fast cornerback.

billyh1026 05-23-2003 11:28 AM

Keyuo Craver??
I think Keyou could be a pretty good corner. He was a great deal at the slot we got in the draft. I liken him to a slightly faster Toi Cook. And I liked Tio...not loved but liked..

BillyCarpenter1 05-23-2003 11:29 AM

Keyuo Craver??
Hey BlackandBlue..give me Brian Cox\'s stats for the last 2 years???????????

JOESAM2002 05-23-2003 12:59 PM

Keyuo Craver??
Bryan Cox, one of my favorite subjects. The way I see it, the stats B&B put up are what Cox should be all about. We have NO linebackers with any experience. If Bryan Cox knows anything it\'s how to play linebacker. I\'d vote to keep him here, if for no other reason than to teach these kids how to play the position. :)

pakowitz 05-23-2003 01:09 PM

Keyuo Craver??
brian cox most likely will be signed but as a coach

BillyCarpenter1 05-23-2003 01:16 PM

Keyuo Craver??
I respect Brian Cox and what he has accomplished but my point was about experience. His experience will count little towards what he can do on the field now.

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