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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; what have holdman and colvin done since not playing on the side of urlacher? nothing.... that's what's in store for briggs when he leaves chicago... these guys were beast when they were teamed with a monster at middle backer, but ...

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Old 11-07-2006, 11:45 AM   #21
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what have holdman and colvin done since not playing on the side of urlacher? nothing.... that's what's in store for briggs when he leaves chicago... these guys were beast when they were teamed with a monster at middle backer, but when they have to stand alone and be the "man" for a defense, they are proven to be not as good as advertised.... and the ernie sims thing, i'm just saying that the trend for lb's out of fla. st. is that they come to nfl, look good for a sec, then fall way off in production... remember peter boulware? maybe ernie is different, but i'm thinking he's in the same mold.... he was inconsistent even at fla. st.
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Old 11-07-2006, 12:05 PM   #22
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and the ernie sims thing, i'm just saying that the trend for lb's out of fla. st. is that they come to nfl, look good for a sec, then fall way off in production...
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Old 11-07-2006, 12:07 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by chRxis
what have holdman and colvin done since not playing on the side of urlacher? nothing.... that's what's in store for briggs when he leaves chicago... these guys were beast when they were teamed with a monster at middle backer, but when they have to stand alone and be the "man" for a defense, they are proven to be not as good as advertised.... and the ernie sims thing, i'm just saying that the trend for lb's out of fla. st. is that they come to nfl, look good for a sec, then fall way off in production... remember peter boulware? maybe ernie is different, but i'm thinking he's in the same mold.... he was inconsistent even at fla. st.
Colvin was never asked to be "the man" in New England. They had pretty good LBs before he signed on. He got hurt and has never been the same. And Holdman went to Cleveland after Chicago. Not exactly a hotbed for defensive players. Now he plays for Washington, who has a suspect defense. How they equal Lance Briggs though is quite a stretch. That's like saying since Charles Rogers and Mike Williams busted in Detroit, no one should want Roy Williams if he became a FA, who is a bonafide stud. Doesn't make sense.
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alright.... i was wrong.... give you that one.... but we'll extrapolate his career later, and we'll all see what i mean with fla. st. linebackers....
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Old 11-07-2006, 12:11 PM   #25
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alright.... i was wrong.... give you that one.... but we'll extrapolate his career later, and we'll all see what i mean with fla. st. linebackers....
Fair enough. It'll be interesting to see how Sims does.


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Old 11-07-2006, 12:18 PM   #26
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the whole point is that i would not like buster davis as a draft pick of this club.... guess i went about it the wrong way....
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Old 11-07-2006, 12:45 PM   #27
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Boulware played DE at FSU.
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:46 PM   #28
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Watch some more Fla St game and eye in on Davis... I'm pretty sure you'll start liking him.
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:25 AM   #29
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whodi, i think you are missing my point... i'm saying that the other bear linebackers benefit from being paired w/ urlacher and once they depart from that pairing, they don't live up to the biling they receive when playing with urlacher... boulware played both de and lb at fla. st. but the point is he's now a lb and he came from fla. st.... papz, i'm sure i'd love davis AT fla. st..... that's my point.... they look great at fla. st. but once they get to the nfl, they flop, or at least don't live up to the hype they get when they excell at fla. st..... again, this is not an absolute truth, but it something i notice about most (not all) fla. st. linebackers
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WOW am I agree with Whodi here??????????????????????///////////////////////////////////
Briggs and Clements FA

I like the Kid from FLA. at LB myself in the draft
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