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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Aaron has been a very good quarterback for the Saints the last 3-years. He is the only quarterback in Saints history to win a playoff game and he has had several come from behind wins. Does he have what it ...

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Old 06-03-2003, 04:21 PM   #1
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Aaron has been a very good quarterback for the Saints the last 3-years. He is the only quarterback in Saints history to win a playoff game and he has had several come from behind wins. Does he have what it takes to be an elite NFL quarterback? I think the anwser is yes. I think he is cool in the pocket, has a great arm, and is very moblie. Are there somethings that he is lacking? Sure, but are there any QB's that aren't? There arn't many currnet NFL QB's I would rather have playing for the Saints right now. All of you who say Arron doesn't have what it takes haven't looked at what he has done since he has been with the Saints. As a matter a fact I don't think there is a current NFl quarterback with as much potential as Aaron Brooks. If anyone out there thinks there is tell me who that would be and why? O.K. maybe his cousin, Mike Vick...
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Old 06-03-2003, 04:35 PM   #2
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I think most of his problems are correctable. His odd backpedalling, picking up the 2nd & 3rd option, knowledge of when to run vs staying in pocket. Most QB\'s start vastly improving these in their 3rd to 4th year. I do disagree with the potential comment. There are quite a few QB\'s I\'d rather have for the long term.

Vick (obviously)
Joey Harrington
David Carr
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Bledsoe (maybe only short term)
Donovan McNabb

But he is on a short list of POTENTIAL superstars. I think he only has this year to show improvements, or they may work out a long term deal with Bouman. He was Haslett\'s 1st choice a few years back, and settled for Brooks when Minnesota wouldn\'t deal.

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Old 06-03-2003, 04:40 PM   #3
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Joey Harrington-- not moblie enough.

David Carr-- not mobile enough.

Payton Manning--not moblie enough.

Tom Brady--not mobile enough.

Drew Bledsoe--not mobile enough

Donovan McNabb--maybe.
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Old 06-03-2003, 04:50 PM   #4
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how can you even compare harrington, carr, brady and bledsoe to AB?

vick, mcnabb and manning (although manning tends to go through slumps mid season every year) i agree with

but those rooks and bledsoe\'s senior citzen a$$?

neither carr nor harrington have the potential or already proven talent to be better than AB, harrington is going to be injury prone his whole career and lacks a killer instinct, while carr has the physicality to be great he doesn\'t seem to be mentally tough, he might learn the mental aspects of the game better but i don\'t think he will ever react as naturally as AB does, brady has no where near the physical ability of AB and while brady is smart he has yet to prove he\'s a consistant top QB, bledsoe? that\'s just nutty talk, bledsoe is getting old and tired, a new team breathed a bit of life back into him last year but he faded down the stretch, his tour in buffalo will end just like in new england only shorter

people seem to short change AB alot, he has been one of the elite top ten QB\'s the last 2 years, the fact that vick and not AB went to the pro bowl last year is a farce, AB\'s numbers the last 2 years have been excellant, although i do question his leadership ability he has already lived up to potential, if his numbers got much better then you\'re talking elway young type numbers and those guys are some of the best ever

just because AB hasn\'t taken us to the super bowl YET doesn\'t mean he isnt great already, marino never made it to the super bowl his whole career and he\'s top 5 all time

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Joey Harrington-- not moblie enough.
David Carr-- not mobile enough.
Payton Manning--not moblie enough.
Tom Brady--not mobile enough.
Drew Bledsoe--not mobile enough
Donovan McNabb--maybe.
Hmmm: QB\'s Without Mobility...
Brad Johnson (a tree)
Tom Brady (a tree)
Trent Dilfer (a tree)
Kurt Warner (a dead tree)
Elway 1998 (A shadow of his former mobility)
Elway 1997 (semi-mobile at that age)
Favre (OK, here\'s one I\'ll give you)
Aikman (a concussed tree)

Me and my bum knee and beer gut could outrun 7 out of the last 8 Superbowl QB\'s

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Old 06-03-2003, 05:12 PM   #6
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Brooks does have alot of potential, but he needs to grow up. He needs to step up and be the leader that a QB should be. The list of young QBs that I think are better than Brooks is short, but you could give me McNabb and Manning over him anyday. You could add Tom Brady to that list too, he doesn\'t have a decent reciever or running back in New England.
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On the subject of mobilty. Don\'t you think a moblile quarterback is more dangerous than one who isn\'t?
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just because AB hasn\'t taken us to the super bowl YET doesn\'t mean he isnt great already, marino never made it to the super bowl his whole career and he\'s top 5 all time
Marino did make it to one Super Bowl as the starting QB for the Dolphins. The \'85 Super Bowl vs. the 49ers. The Dolphins got their asses handed to them on a silver platter that game, but Marino did in fact make a Super Bowl appearance. Brooks has a lot of work to do to even come close to being the caliber of Dan Marino. I like AB, don\'t get me wrong, but I just don\'t see him in the light that many of you do. If he gets the Saints to the Super Bowl, then I\'ll eat crow. Until then, I\'ll keep dreaming of an Archie Manning clone.

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Old 06-03-2003, 05:56 PM   #9
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After reading rusta’s post, I decided to hit the streets and hit the players and people associated with the post, with the really tough questions, as only I can. Sit back and read the responses.
how can you even compare harrington, carr, brady and bledsoe to AB?
Hey, rusta here, what I meant to say was how can you even compare Harrington or carr to AB? I do realize that Brady has won a Super Bowl and Bledsoe will one day be in the Hall of Fame. It was a typo, or something. Damn, can’t a brotha get a break around here???

vick, mcnabb and manning (although manning tends to go through slumps mid season every year) i agree with

but those rooks and bledsoe\'s senior citzen a$$?

Hey, rusta again- look, I know Brady isn’t technically a rook and Bledsoe’s senior citizen ass will one day be waving to us all from the steps at Canton. I haven’t got my medication refilled- why are you people hating???

neither carr nor harrington have the potential or already proven talent to be better than AB,
Heh heh, me again (rusta). I don’t fully comprehend how detrimental my run-on sentences can be at getting my point across, but who cares? You’d think English mattered, or something. While the above statement is technically true, I did not take into account that they have only played in the NFL ONE FREAKING YEAR!
harrington is going to be injury prone his whole career and lacks a killer instinct,
Joey Harrington here- I know I was injured last year, but that does not relate into me being injured off and on for the rest of my career. I have the same chance as any other friggin QB in this league to succeed. And don’t let my nice guy persona fool you into thinking I don’t have a killer instinct. Plenty of nice guy QB’s have gone on to win it all- Troy Aikman, Kurt Warner, Roger Staubach- the list is endless.
while carr has the physicality to be great he doesn\'t seem to be mentally tough, he might learn the mental aspects of the game better but i don\'t think he will ever react as naturally as AB does,
Hello everyone, my name is David Carr- I got your mental toughness, right here. I could throw a football through your peanut sized head…from Fresno.
brady has no where near the physical ability of AB and while brady is smart he has yet to prove he\'s a consistant top QB,
Hi, my name is Tom Brady- I got a Super Bowl ring…what you got, *****?
bledsoe? that\'s just nutty talk, bledsoe is getting old and tired, a new team breathed a bit of life back into him last year but he faded down the stretch, his tour in buffalo will end just like in new england only shorter
Drew Bledsoe here, you may remember me from such pro football teams, such as the New England Patriots or the Buffalo Bills. My tour won’t end in Buffalo, it’ll end in Canton…waitâà ¢Â‚¬Â¦havenâ€â „¢t we already gone over all this???

people seem to short change AB alot, he has been one of the elite top ten QB\'s the last 2 years, the fact that vick and not AB went to the pro bowl last year is a farce,
Rusta- I made a smart statement- hip hip horray! So leet- yes!
AB\'s numbers the last 2 years have been excellant, although i do question his leadership ability he has already lived up to potential, if his numbers got much better then you\'re talking elway young type numbers and those guys are some of the best ever

just because AB hasn\'t taken us to the super bowl YET doesn\'t mean he isnt great already, marino never made it to the super bowl his whole career and he\'s top 5 all time

Rusta again- did I forget to mention that I like to compare the greatest of all time to a guy who hasn’t started 3 full seasons??? Bow down to my mighty powah!

think about it

Yeah, I thought about it and realized that this has to be the single most ignorant post I have ever read since I started coming to these boards. You make some decent posts from time to time, but this is out of character. Are you not feeling well today?

On the mobility, name me one mobile QB that has won a Super Bowl in the modern era. You can have your mobility, give me the Super Bowl victory.

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I believe the last \"mobile\" QB to win a Super Bowl was Steve Young in 95 with the Niners. Damn at my 49ers Super Bowl information. :casstet: As far as mobility is concerned, it is completely overrated. Give me a true pocket passer any day of the week over the Vicks, McNabbs, and Culpeppers. Their careers don\'t last near as long and they are moving targets for a full-speed linebacker or free safety to rip their heads off. If MOST of the \"mobile\" QB\'s were to stay in the pocket most of the time, they\'d be barely above average.....if they\'re lucky.

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