THE SAINTS ARE REALLY THAT GOOD!!!!!!!!

GoldRush26 · 12-04-2006, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

We aren't that good... hell it was the 49er's!!! Look what happens when we play against a team that matters... yikes! I don't care if we make the play offs or not at this point... alll I want is to beat the cowgirls this weekend, that is all that matters!!!

What? How does winning one individual game matter? If I had to make a choice of winning this Cowboys game or getting into the playoffs it's not even close. It's about the big picture not just about sticking it to the cowboys.

pumpkindriver · 12-04-2006, 08:15 PM

Euphoria, I have to disagree with you. We are that good. Every one of our losses can be traced to one thing, TURNOVERS!!! When we don't turn the ball over, we have been unstoppable. Even the Raven's vaunted defense didn't stop us, but we gave them the ball early and often. And who are these teams that matter? The only one that was important in the tie breakers was the Panthers, our other 3 losses have been to AFC North teams, who are pretty far down on the tie breaker list so we are doing pretty good in our division and in the conference. We pretty much control our own destiny, we win out and we wrap up the division, the 2nd seed and a bye. All in all thats a pretty good position to be in right now.

GoldRush26 · 12-04-2006, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by pumpkindriver

Euphoria, I have to disagree with you. We are that good. Every one of our losses can be traced to one thing, TURNOVERS!!! When we don't turn the ball over, we have been unstoppable. Even the Raven's vaunted defense didn't stop us, but we gave them the ball early and often. And who are these teams that matter? The only one that was important in the tie breakers was the Panthers, our other 3 losses have been to AFC North teams, who are pretty far down on the tie breaker list so we are doing pretty good in our division and in the conference. We pretty much control our own destiny, we win out and we wrap up the division, the 2nd seed and a bye. All in all thats a pretty good position to be in right now.

I guess in Euphoria's eyes sweeping the Falcons doesn't matter now.

Euphoria was talking that junk right before the Falcons and Eagles games. Basically any team we beat doesn't matter. If we beat Dallas he'll say they didn't matter either.

Euphoria · 12-04-2006, 10:18 PM

Falcons are stinking up the joint, we should beat them. The question states "are we that good". What the hell does that mean... Good enough to be a SB champ? Good enough to be NFC champs. Ravens spanked us, it was embarrassing but I guess no one seen that game. Excuse me for being a bit grounded and realistic and only thinking of the game at hand and not thinking of the Pro Bowl geez how retarded of me. Lets see well maybe I'll wear my black shorts and gray shirt while I sit on my sofa and watch the Pro Bowl... Nothing in the past weeks matter, nothing after the Dallas game matters, what matters is getting a win against Dallas.

GoldRush26 · 12-04-2006, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Falcons are stinking up the joint, we should beat them. The question states "are we that good". What the hell does that mean... Good enough to be a SB champ? Good enough to be NFC champs. Ravens spanked us, it was embarrassing but I guess no one seen that game. Excuse me for being a bit grounded and realistic and only thinking of the game at hand and not thinking of the Pro Bowl geez how retarded of me. Lets see well maybe I'll wear my black shorts and gray shirt while I sit on my sofa and watch the Pro Bowl... Nothing in the past weeks matter, nothing after the Dallas game matters, what matters is getting a win against Dallas.

No I don't see anyone mentioning Pro Bowl or SB or anything like that but so often you like to ridicule any of us that think that this may be a special team this year. The Falcons right now are the same Falcons that they were at the beginning of the year. Teams aren't any worse just because they lost to us. Maybe it's that we are better. In your eyes if you think "that good" means good enough to win the SB this year, probably not. Fact is no other team in the NFC is either. The Bears????? Rex will be their undoing. He's much worse than Trent Dilfer was to the Ravens and he'll cost them a SB. The Cowboys???? They are one bad game away from a T.O. meltdown. Lets not even talk about the Seahawks. I live up here in Seattle and can see first hand that they are not that good at all. They had the luxury last night of playing against a rookie making his first start. Plummer plays that game and they lose no doubt. Other than that they play in the weakest division in the NFL. I like our chances against anyone in the NFC right now quite honestly.

SaintPauly · 12-05-2006, 12:23 AM

I have to agree with gold rush. The NFC is wide open right now, and let's face it, over all, not that good. I honestly think the worst AFC team, could give the best NFC team a nail biter. Who is the best NFC team? I mean, the Bears by record, but I've watched alot of Bears games, and don't see them as unbeatable. Besides the Bears, there's the Cowboys, and I don't see them as an elite unit either. I really don't like to look to far ahead, no matter what is going on in the world, but I've got to point this out. Who else, in the NFC besides the two teams I mentioned, do we have to fear? I know anything can happen on any given Sunday, but reallisticly, there is not one team that I see as a threat.

I'm going to give major props, to some guys who haven't been given too much credit this season. The O-line. Fewest sacks allowed in the league. That's something to say. These guys really started clicking early. Also cudos to our line coach.

Dallas has a decent secondary. This weekend is a must win in my eyes as well. It will show us all, just how great this team really is.

Euphoria · 12-05-2006, 01:42 AM

Defense wins championships...

SaintPauly · 12-05-2006, 04:27 AM

I seem to remember the year the Rams won the SB, their defense was ranked 10th, or 11th. The same with the first year the Patriots won. If our defense can hold, like they did against the Niners, and the Falcons, then we should be fine.

Sarsippius · 12-05-2006, 09:36 AM

I believe Euphoria is really Randy Quaid from Major League 2.

SapperSaint · 12-05-2006, 09:59 AM

I think Euph is right. This game does matter if they win or lose. After this week next week, and the week after. Can they beat a team that is on a hot streak? If they do (I pray for it) make the playoffs they will face the Cowboys again...and with two losses against them ( if they don't win this week) who do you think will have the upper hand.

Euph, you don't have CPT Sunshine as a title for nothing, but in this instance..I'm with you.

Play the week not the season.

By the way, way to go Reggie

12-04-2006, 08:11 PM	#11
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by Euphoria We aren't that good... hell it was the 49er's!!! Look what happens when we play against a team that matters... yikes! I don't care if we make the play offs or not at this point... alll I want is to beat the cowgirls this weekend, that is all that matters!!! What? How does winning one individual game matter? If I had to make a choice of winning this Cowboys game or getting into the playoffs it's not even close. It's about the big picture not just about sticking it to the cowboys.
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12-04-2006, 08:15 PM	#12
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Euphoria, I have to disagree with you. We are that good. Every one of our losses can be traced to one thing, TURNOVERS!!! When we don't turn the ball over, we have been unstoppable. Even the Raven's vaunted defense didn't stop us, but we gave them the ball early and often. And who are these teams that matter? The only one that was important in the tie breakers was the Panthers, our other 3 losses have been to AFC North teams, who are pretty far down on the tie breaker list so we are doing pretty good in our division and in the conference. We pretty much control our own destiny, we win out and we wrap up the division, the 2nd seed and a bye. All in all thats a pretty good position to be in right now.
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12-04-2006, 08:20 PM	#13
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by pumpkindriver Euphoria, I have to disagree with you. We are that good. Every one of our losses can be traced to one thing, TURNOVERS!!! When we don't turn the ball over, we have been unstoppable. Even the Raven's vaunted defense didn't stop us, but we gave them the ball early and often. And who are these teams that matter? The only one that was important in the tie breakers was the Panthers, our other 3 losses have been to AFC North teams, who are pretty far down on the tie breaker list so we are doing pretty good in our division and in the conference. We pretty much control our own destiny, we win out and we wrap up the division, the 2nd seed and a bye. All in all thats a pretty good position to be in right now. I guess in Euphoria's eyes sweeping the Falcons doesn't matter now. Euphoria was talking that junk right before the Falcons and Eagles games. Basically any team we beat doesn't matter. If we beat Dallas he'll say they didn't matter either.
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12-04-2006, 10:18 PM	#14
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Falcons are stinking up the joint, we should beat them. The question states "are we that good". What the hell does that mean... Good enough to be a SB champ? Good enough to be NFC champs. Ravens spanked us, it was embarrassing but I guess no one seen that game. Excuse me for being a bit grounded and realistic and only thinking of the game at hand and not thinking of the Pro Bowl geez how retarded of me. Lets see well maybe I'll wear my black shorts and gray shirt while I sit on my sofa and watch the Pro Bowl... Nothing in the past weeks matter, nothing after the Dallas game matters, what matters is getting a win against Dallas.
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12-04-2006, 10:32 PM	#15
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by Euphoria Falcons are stinking up the joint, we should beat them. The question states "are we that good". What the hell does that mean... Good enough to be a SB champ? Good enough to be NFC champs. Ravens spanked us, it was embarrassing but I guess no one seen that game. Excuse me for being a bit grounded and realistic and only thinking of the game at hand and not thinking of the Pro Bowl geez how retarded of me. Lets see well maybe I'll wear my black shorts and gray shirt while I sit on my sofa and watch the Pro Bowl... Nothing in the past weeks matter, nothing after the Dallas game matters, what matters is getting a win against Dallas. No I don't see anyone mentioning Pro Bowl or SB or anything like that but so often you like to ridicule any of us that think that this may be a special team this year. The Falcons right now are the same Falcons that they were at the beginning of the year. Teams aren't any worse just because they lost to us. Maybe it's that we are better. In your eyes if you think "that good" means good enough to win the SB this year, probably not. Fact is no other team in the NFC is either. The Bears????? Rex will be their undoing. He's much worse than Trent Dilfer was to the Ravens and he'll cost them a SB. The Cowboys???? They are one bad game away from a T.O. meltdown. Lets not even talk about the Seahawks. I live up here in Seattle and can see first hand that they are not that good at all. They had the luxury last night of playing against a rookie making his first start. Plummer plays that game and they lose no doubt. Other than that they play in the weakest division in the NFL. I like our chances against anyone in the NFC right now quite honestly.
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12-05-2006, 12:23 AM	#16
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I have to agree with gold rush. The NFC is wide open right now, and let's face it, over all, not that good. I honestly think the worst AFC team, could give the best NFC team a nail biter. Who is the best NFC team? I mean, the Bears by record, but I've watched alot of Bears games, and don't see them as unbeatable. Besides the Bears, there's the Cowboys, and I don't see them as an elite unit either. I really don't like to look to far ahead, no matter what is going on in the world, but I've got to point this out. Who else, in the NFC besides the two teams I mentioned, do we have to fear? I know anything can happen on any given Sunday, but reallisticly, there is not one team that I see as a threat. I'm going to give major props, to some guys who haven't been given too much credit this season. The O-line. Fewest sacks allowed in the league. That's something to say. These guys really started clicking early. Also cudos to our line coach. Dallas has a decent secondary. This weekend is a must win in my eyes as well. It will show us all, just how great this team really is.
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12-05-2006, 01:42 AM	#17
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Defense wins championships...

12-05-2006, 04:27 AM	#18
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I seem to remember the year the Rams won the SB, their defense was ranked 10th, or 11th. The same with the first year the Patriots won. If our defense can hold, like they did against the Niners, and the Falcons, then we should be fine.

12-05-2006, 09:36 AM	#19
Sarsippius Registered Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Orleans Posts: 90	I believe Euphoria is really Randy Quaid from Major League 2.

12-05-2006, 09:59 AM	#20
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	I think Euph is right. This game does matter if they win or lose. After this week next week, and the week after. Can they beat a team that is on a hot streak? If they do (I pray for it) make the playoffs they will face the Cowboys again...and with two losses against them ( if they don't win this week) who do you think will have the upper hand. Euph, you don't have CPT Sunshine as a title for nothing, but in this instance..I'm with you. Play the week not the season. By the way, way to go Reggie
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