Saints NFC South Division Winners!!!

Fleured · 12-19-2006, 02:20 PM

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JOESAM2002 · 12-19-2006, 03:31 PM

Union Justice Confidence, right?

and Rice and gravy! That's the true state motto!

TheDeuce · 12-19-2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

Originally Posted by AllSaints

2006 NFC SOUTH CHAMPS !!!!!!!!!!

lol thank you for that update

Haha hilarious!

Anyways, we are the NFC South Division winners, and that's something to be proud of. It didn't exactly happen the way we wanted it to, but it happened; and it's something we've never done before. I hope the guys are proud of they're accomplishment, but realize that it don't mean sh** if they go out in the first round. Who dat?!?!?

GoldRush26 · 12-19-2006, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by DJLengai

If we couldn't get motivated yesterday to finish it out, that's a very bad sign...not a hiccup. Washington showed every team we play for the rest of the year how to beat us...a very bad sign. So what "win or lose we win division." That's no reason to play like drunks. If we'd have won, Payton could rest some palyers for the playoffs and give the young guys more PT. Now that we played like the Saints we're all used to, Payton is forced to keep playing everyone becuase they played so bad and risk a critical injury. We screwed ourselves on so many levels yesterday it's not even funny.

So I suppose Baltimore and KC provided the formula for beating the Chargers, right?

Anyone who's a fan of football can figure out what you need to do to beat a team. To beat the Chargers you have to stop LT from running all over you. I guess they're doomed right?

Knowing how to beat a team is entirely different from doing it. If Baltimore provided the formula for beating us why did we end up going 9-5 for the season thus far?

And resting players????? That is exactly the thing we SHOULDN'T do. We don't need to give youger players reps. Maybe you're thinking of a year where people are playing for their jobs and have nothing else to play for. When you are winning, you need to keep winning, not rest players. That's a surefire way to lose momentum. Players get injured on the field, off the field and everywhere in between.

SaintPauly · 12-19-2006, 04:54 PM

And some are caught with illegal automatic fire arms in their automobiles. Don't you think it's ironic that his name is "Tank"?

DJLengai · 12-19-2006, 04:59 PM

OK,

The Ravens D is a monster for every team to face. They are not 4-9. The Pitt game we had them beat until Willie broke off those 2 big runs. We had Cinci in a dead heat until Palmer wiggled out of a sack and hit a big pass to 85. We lost to Carolina by a field goal. Washington was different. They schooled us the whole game.

Our O did squat - a lot to do with Washington's game plan. Addintionally, our team was not motivated to go for the kill at the most important time which equals a quick exit from the playoffs again. If we had palyed Washington like we played Dallas we could rest SOME OF OUR BANGED UP PLAYERS. Not all of them. We have a playoff spot already so playing everyone when we already have a playoff spot is unintelligent if the team is playing how a playoff team and division winner should play in December. We didn't do that so now we risk further injuring people that could be healing up for a big playoff run.

GoldRush26 · 12-19-2006, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by DJLengai

OK,

The Ravens D is a monster for every team to face. They are not 4-9. The Pitt game we had them beat until Willie broke off those 2 big runs. We had Cinci in a dead heat until Palmer wiggled out of a sack and hit a big pass to 85. We lost to Carolina by a field goal. Washington was different. They schooled us the whole game.

Our O did squat - a lot to do with Washington's game plan. Addintionally, our team was not motivated to go for the kill at the most important time which equals a quick exit from the playoffs again. If we had palyed Washington like we played Dallas we could rest SOME OF OUR BANGED UP PLAYERS. Not all of them. We have a playoff spot already so playing everyone when we already have a playoff spot is unintelligent if the team is playing how a playoff team and division winner should play in December. We didn't do that so now we risk further injuring people that could be healing up for a big playoff run.

You say Washington schooled us? And yet we were still in position to win a game that we had no business being in.

I'm sorry but I just don't see how you could compare a Redskins team playing for nothing to a Dallas team who you might see in the playoffs in a few weeks. I see no similarities at all. The team knew that they had the NFC South locked up coming out of halftime. They thought they could win just by showing up. This was a pure maturity issue. The team needs to learn how to balance the up weeks with the down weeks, and that doesn't just happen automatically, especially after going 3-13 the year before.

Why would them team get as emotionally hyped up for Washington as they would for a top playoff-contending team. As much as we would like players to go all out every game, it doesn't work like that. It doesn't work like that for any NFL team. That being said, we still should have won the game.

I don't see how one loss is being viewed as a precursor to the the playoffs. Why wouldn't the Dallas game or any of our other 9 wins be more of an indication of what we'll do in the playoffs? Seems like we've been winning more than we've been losing this season.

SaintPauly · 12-19-2006, 10:54 PM

Another way to look at this, and I know, because I will be guilty of it myself probably, is that if we come out of New York with a massive victory on Sunday, we will all forget about the loss to Washington, and it won't be mentioned again. Ya' know?

TheJudge316 · 12-19-2006, 11:15 PM

Speaking of the Giants..............

Why isn't the NFL making the Giants play their "home" game against the Saints in New Orleans????

I mean it is the least we can do after they showed us such great hospitality last year.............that would be classic. We all know how the Giants hold their s#%t together when the going gets tough!!

but then again our home record sucks compared to our road record.

and yes if there was a game the Saints could afford to loose their focus, this was the game, but no more. I liked Peyton' quotes about the loss, he and the other coaches just have to do a better job getting them ready, NICE, I am more stoked about the Giants game than the cowgirl game-- I am in the heart of Texas and it is great listening to the Cowgirl fans going for the team that kicked their assets last Sun night.

The Judge:316

blacksaint · 12-19-2006, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs

We finally have one thing the Saints have not had since the late 80's....a solid foundation for the future!!

I hate to bring this up, but I thought the exact same thing 6 years ago, when a first year head coach named Jim Haslett took us to the play offs, and won for the very first time in our history. Then he took us on a roller coaster ride for five years, that always left me sick at the end of the season.

I'm not saying that's going to happen again, but we should give it a couple of seasons, before we march Payton up and down Bourbon Street on our shoulders. Many coaches in history have gotten their teams to the play offs, and never did more than that. Look at Mike Martz. He took the Rams to the Super Bowl, lost, and was fired two seasons later. Now, I know you guys hate negative thinking, but you also have to keep yourself grounded in the fact, that one season, does not make a career.

Payton is on the right track. I just hope he doesn't derail the way Haslett did. That's not negative thinking, that's being real.

The diference in 2000, and now is the fact that Ditka left us with nothing, at lest Coach Payton had desent talent, and draft picks to work with, Coach Haz had nothing but a talentless squad, and no draft picks for a couple of years. So the future looks a little brighter than past staff, besides the QB position is a hell a lot more stable than in 2000.

12-19-2006, 04:17 PM	#13
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Originally Posted by pakowitz Originally Posted by AllSaints 2006 NFC SOUTH CHAMPS !!!!!!!!!! lol thank you for that update Haha hilarious! Anyways, we are the NFC South Division winners, and that's something to be proud of. It didn't exactly happen the way we wanted it to, but it happened; and it's something we've never done before. I hope the guys are proud of they're accomplishment, but realize that it don't mean sh** if they go out in the first round. Who dat?!?!?
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12-19-2006, 04:39 PM	#14
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by DJLengai If we couldn't get motivated yesterday to finish it out, that's a very bad sign...not a hiccup. Washington showed every team we play for the rest of the year how to beat us...a very bad sign. So what "win or lose we win division." That's no reason to play like drunks. If we'd have won, Payton could rest some palyers for the playoffs and give the young guys more PT. Now that we played like the Saints we're all used to, Payton is forced to keep playing everyone becuase they played so bad and risk a critical injury. We screwed ourselves on so many levels yesterday it's not even funny. So I suppose Baltimore and KC provided the formula for beating the Chargers, right? Anyone who's a fan of football can figure out what you need to do to beat a team. To beat the Chargers you have to stop LT from running all over you. I guess they're doomed right? Knowing how to beat a team is entirely different from doing it. If Baltimore provided the formula for beating us why did we end up going 9-5 for the season thus far? And resting players????? That is exactly the thing we SHOULDN'T do. We don't need to give youger players reps. Maybe you're thinking of a year where people are playing for their jobs and have nothing else to play for. When you are winning, you need to keep winning, not rest players. That's a surefire way to lose momentum. Players get injured on the field, off the field and everywhere in between.
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12-19-2006, 04:59 PM	#16
DJLengai 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 168	OK, The Ravens D is a monster for every team to face. They are not 4-9. The Pitt game we had them beat until Willie broke off those 2 big runs. We had Cinci in a dead heat until Palmer wiggled out of a sack and hit a big pass to 85. We lost to Carolina by a field goal. Washington was different. They schooled us the whole game. Our O did squat - a lot to do with Washington's game plan. Addintionally, our team was not motivated to go for the kill at the most important time which equals a quick exit from the playoffs again. If we had palyed Washington like we played Dallas we could rest SOME OF OUR BANGED UP PLAYERS. Not all of them. We have a playoff spot already so playing everyone when we already have a playoff spot is unintelligent if the team is playing how a playoff team and division winner should play in December. We didn't do that so now we risk further injuring people that could be healing up for a big playoff run.
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12-19-2006, 05:47 PM	#17
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by DJLengai OK, The Ravens D is a monster for every team to face. They are not 4-9. The Pitt game we had them beat until Willie broke off those 2 big runs. We had Cinci in a dead heat until Palmer wiggled out of a sack and hit a big pass to 85. We lost to Carolina by a field goal. Washington was different. They schooled us the whole game. Our O did squat - a lot to do with Washington's game plan. Addintionally, our team was not motivated to go for the kill at the most important time which equals a quick exit from the playoffs again. If we had palyed Washington like we played Dallas we could rest SOME OF OUR BANGED UP PLAYERS. Not all of them. We have a playoff spot already so playing everyone when we already have a playoff spot is unintelligent if the team is playing how a playoff team and division winner should play in December. We didn't do that so now we risk further injuring people that could be healing up for a big playoff run. You say Washington schooled us? And yet we were still in position to win a game that we had no business being in. I'm sorry but I just don't see how you could compare a Redskins team playing for nothing to a Dallas team who you might see in the playoffs in a few weeks. I see no similarities at all. The team knew that they had the NFC South locked up coming out of halftime. They thought they could win just by showing up. This was a pure maturity issue. The team needs to learn how to balance the up weeks with the down weeks, and that doesn't just happen automatically, especially after going 3-13 the year before. Why would them team get as emotionally hyped up for Washington as they would for a top playoff-contending team. As much as we would like players to go all out every game, it doesn't work like that. It doesn't work like that for any NFL team. That being said, we still should have won the game. I don't see how one loss is being viewed as a precursor to the the playoffs. Why wouldn't the Dallas game or any of our other 9 wins be more of an indication of what we'll do in the playoffs? Seems like we've been winning more than we've been losing this season.
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12-19-2006, 11:15 PM	#19
TheJudge316 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	Speaking of the Giants.............. Why isn't the NFL making the Giants play their "home" game against the Saints in New Orleans???? I mean it is the least we can do after they showed us such great hospitality last year.............that would be classic. We all know how the Giants hold their s#%t together when the going gets tough!! but then again our home record sucks compared to our road record. and yes if there was a game the Saints could afford to loose their focus, this was the game, but no more. I liked Peyton' quotes about the loss, he and the other coaches just have to do a better job getting them ready, NICE, I am more stoked about the Giants game than the cowgirl game-- I am in the heart of Texas and it is great listening to the Cowgirl fans going for the team that kicked their assets last Sun night. The Judge:316
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SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Another way to look at this, and I know, because I will be guilty of it myself probably, is that if we come out of New York with a massive victory on Sunday, we will all forget about the loss to Washington, and it won't be mentioned again. Ya' know?

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blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs We finally have one thing the Saints have not had since the late 80's....a solid foundation for the future!! I hate to bring this up, but I thought the exact same thing 6 years ago, when a first year head coach named Jim Haslett took us to the play offs, and won for the very first time in our history. Then he took us on a roller coaster ride for five years, that always left me sick at the end of the season. I'm not saying that's going to happen again, but we should give it a couple of seasons, before we march Payton up and down Bourbon Street on our shoulders. Many coaches in history have gotten their teams to the play offs, and never did more than that. Look at Mike Martz. He took the Rams to the Super Bowl, lost, and was fired two seasons later. Now, I know you guys hate negative thinking, but you also have to keep yourself grounded in the fact, that one season, does not make a career. Payton is on the right track. I just hope he doesn't derail the way Haslett did. That's not negative thinking, that's being real. The diference in 2000, and now is the fact that Ditka left us with nothing, at lest Coach Payton had desent talent, and draft picks to work with, Coach Haz had nothing but a talentless squad, and no draft picks for a couple of years. So the future looks a little brighter than past staff, besides the QB position is a hell a lot more stable than in 2000.
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