It came up in another post

FWtex · 06-13-2003, 02:35 AM

Brooks is taking alot of heat for his crappy play last year- and with darn good reason. There is a point I would like to relay that is Haz's problem that no one seemes to focus on.

At halftime of the cincinnati game Horn and Reed both approached HAZ and asked him to replace brooks. They told HAZ brooks took "the shot" for the team but he did not have the game to play and BEGGED for Brooks to be benched. Haz refused to bench Brooks and the rest is history.

Did HAz learn anything? I am damn tired of coaching loyalty to players and coaches when they are not getting the job done.

ssmitty · 06-13-2003, 04:30 AM

this i never read, do you have a link or article, thanks, smitty

nocloning · 06-13-2003, 06:02 AM

Doesn\'t really matter if they approached Haslett. He saw what was happening as well as they did.
Even then it was a mystery to me why Haz didn\'t react and I still haven\'t figured it out. Maybe he felt like they would never win a play-off game with Jake, that they would need AB for it. Or maybe that it was better for the team\'s (Brooks\') future not to bench him so he could learn how to play through injury. Or that benching Brooks would undermine his confidence which would be bad for the team in the long run.
At that point of the season and the situation the Saints were in all these arguments still don\'t suffice to let him stay in IMHO. And to all those who say that Brooks should\'ve gone to Haz to say: \"Please bench me\" ... get real. You just don\'t do that in the NFL unless you are unable to enter the field at all. Brooks probably knew he was only 80%, but as he thinks of himself as a Pro Bowl quarterback those 80% were still better than Jake at 100 in his eyes. Of course he wants to prove that he can overcome injury and still get his team the win. Didn\'t Elway play with a broken foot?
It\'s solely Haslett\'s call who starts and stays in. And he blew it the last few games.

BucNup · 06-13-2003, 07:50 AM

What\'s the opinion of Haslett overall from Saints fans in general? The last few seasons, things have fallen apart at the end and in my opinion, it\'s not from the lack of players you guys have.

The Saints clearly match-up well, if not better than almost ever team in the NFL, let alone the South. Where do you draw the line on your coaching situation?

PS: How can I add a image to my post, more consistent with my team? Thanks

[Edited on 13/6/2003 by BucNup]

subguy · 06-13-2003, 08:12 AM

Bucknup, send your avatar to webmaster@blackandgold.net. If it is a product of another site you should request permission. I am not sure who to point fingers at for our late season demise. The coaches should keep a team focused, but you still need key leaders on the field . Like you have with Brooks.

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-13-2003, 10:38 AM

BucNup,

PS: How can I add a image to my post, more consistent with my team?

Just find you a gay webpage and find an image that you like and send it to the webmaster.. If I can be of more help in the future, let me know.

BucNup · 06-13-2003, 10:51 AM

Thanks Billy!

Cassady37 · 06-13-2003, 11:46 AM

I was thinking any pictures from the Saints/Tampa game last year would be pretty great on here. How about the tackle/interception/touchdown of the punter? Just a suggestion, it would make you really popular with lots of approval! I\'m messin\' with ya Buc, don\'t take it too seriously!

06-13-2003, 02:35 AM	#1
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	It came up in another post Brooks is taking alot of heat for his crappy play last year- and with darn good reason. There is a point I would like to relay that is Haz's problem that no one seemes to focus on. At halftime of the cincinnati game Horn and Reed both approached HAZ and asked him to replace brooks. They told HAZ brooks took "the shot" for the team but he did not have the game to play and BEGGED for Brooks to be benched. Haz refused to bench Brooks and the rest is history. Did HAz learn anything? I am damn tired of coaching loyalty to players and coaches when they are not getting the job done.
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370

06-13-2003, 04:30 AM	#2
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	It came up in another post this i never read, do you have a link or article, thanks, smitty
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06-13-2003, 06:02 AM	#3
nocloning 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 302	It came up in another post Doesn\'t really matter if they approached Haslett. He saw what was happening as well as they did. Even then it was a mystery to me why Haz didn\'t react and I still haven\'t figured it out. Maybe he felt like they would never win a play-off game with Jake, that they would need AB for it. Or maybe that it was better for the team\'s (Brooks\') future not to bench him so he could learn how to play through injury. Or that benching Brooks would undermine his confidence which would be bad for the team in the long run. At that point of the season and the situation the Saints were in all these arguments still don\'t suffice to let him stay in IMHO. And to all those who say that Brooks should\'ve gone to Haz to say: \"Please bench me\" ... get real. You just don\'t do that in the NFL unless you are unable to enter the field at all. Brooks probably knew he was only 80%, but as he thinks of himself as a Pro Bowl quarterback those 80% were still better than Jake at 100 in his eyes. Of course he wants to prove that he can overcome injury and still get his team the win. Didn\'t Elway play with a broken foot? It\'s solely Haslett\'s call who starts and stays in. And he blew it the last few games.
nocloning 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 302	\"What is Wal-Mart? Is it like they sell wall stuff?\"

06-13-2003, 07:50 AM	#4
BucNup 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 170	It came up in another post What\'s the opinion of Haslett overall from Saints fans in general? The last few seasons, things have fallen apart at the end and in my opinion, it\'s not from the lack of players you guys have. The Saints clearly match-up well, if not better than almost ever team in the NFL, let alone the South. Where do you draw the line on your coaching situation? PS: How can I add a image to my post, more consistent with my team? Thanks [Edited on 13/6/2003 by BucNup]

06-13-2003, 08:12 AM	#5
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,057	It came up in another post Bucknup, send your avatar to webmaster@blackandgold.net. If it is a product of another site you should request permission. I am not sure who to point fingers at for our late season demise. The coaches should keep a team focused, but you still need key leaders on the field . Like you have with Brooks.

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06-13-2003, 10:38 AM	#6
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	It came up in another post BucNup, PS: How can I add a image to my post, more consistent with my team? Just find you a gay webpage and find an image that you like and send it to the webmaster.. If I can be of more help in the future, let me know.
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06-13-2003, 10:51 AM	#7
BucNup 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 170	It came up in another post Thanks Billy!

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Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	It came up in another post I was thinking any pictures from the Saints/Tampa game last year would be pretty great on here. How about the tackle/interception/touchdown of the punter? Just a suggestion, it would make you really popular with lots of approval! I\'m messin\' with ya Buc, don\'t take it too seriously!