Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year???

blacksaint · 12-31-2006, 10:34 PM

O.k., i give you that, being sweep by the Panthers does leave a bitter taste in the mouth. But don't come down on Coach Payton for being concerned about any of his players being hurt in a meaningless game like this one. Because, if he had kept say Brees in through the 1st half, and he got hurt, or Bush got a high ankle sprain, than this board would be lite up with people upset that he left them in the game that long. So as far as the decision goes to keep certain players out of the game and play others for a mininal time, i support him 100%. GO NFC SOUTH DIVISION CHAMPION SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

APSaintsfan · 12-31-2006, 10:54 PM

Blacksaint, OK Jamie Martin was getting his butt thrown to the ground alot in this game because Carolina had there massive starting Defense Line in the game til midway thru the 4th quarter. He was 20-26 for over 200 yards. Our backup offensive line was not blocking at all because he was sacked I think 5 times. Give Martin a break. If he had the main offensive line in their for the whole game he gets sacked maybe twice. Brees is not hurt, Jamie Martin is not hurt that we know of so we have one MVP and a good QB as a backup, and this was the point for playing the backups, to win the SB, hell just win the next game and other games.

Brann · 12-31-2006, 11:06 PM

Guys, read the injury reports from meaningless games today and then tell me that Payton did the wrong thing. The Seahawks are down to starting their waterboys in the secondary, Cutler got a concussion, Grossman had as many INTs as completions, LT and Rivers got banged up...I'll trust Payton and this coaching staff. Not like we have any reason to doubt them thus far.

The Saints' backups hung with the Panthers' STARTERS. Freddy Mac got a rushing TD today...did you see how overjoyed he was with Payton after that? How can you not feel at least okay about the game today? I thought Freddy was gonna cry, he looked so happy.

GoldRush26 · 01-01-2007, 12:13 AM

We lost and got swept by the Panthers and I have to hear this garbage about them having the best division record. I can't see how we can feel ok about this game today. Maybe it's nothing to worry about but that doesn't mean I'm gonna throw a party.

It won't matter in a couple of weeks when we play our playoff game because they are at home but I don't like losing a division game.

blacksaint · 01-01-2007, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by APSaintsfan

Blacksaint, OK Jamie Martin was getting his butt thrown to the ground alot in this game because Carolina had there massive starting Defense Line in the game til midway thru the 4th quarter. He was 20-26 for over 200 yards. Our backup offensive line was not blocking at all because he was sacked I think 5 times. Give Martin a break. If he had the main offensive line in their for the whole game he gets sacked maybe twice. Brees is not hurt, Jamie Martin is not hurt that we know of so we have one MVP and a good QB as a backup, and this was the point for playing the backups, to win the SB, hell just win the next game and other games.

Yo, no disrespect to the kid, but even when he had time, he didn't look like he was ready, and he should have been. We're talking about a 12 year veteran here, you have to remember one thing, he should have been more comfortable with the 2nd and 3rd stringers, because that's who he practice with on a daily basis. I'm sorry, but i have to disagree with you on Jaime Martin, we at lest need to give it a good look in the off season. But I'm not worried about the QB position in the playoffs because Brees was barely touch during the regular season and i don't expect that to change at all. But i do think we need another backup QB. GO NFC SOUTH DIVISION CHAMPION SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brann · 01-01-2007, 12:25 AM

Yeah, it makes much more sense to risk injuries to our starters and get a meaningless win, doesn't it?

GoldRush26 · 01-01-2007, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Brann

Yeah, it makes much more sense to risk injuries to our starters and get a meaningless win, doesn't it?

I already said a few posts ago that I was fine with him resting the players. But there's no way in hell I'm gonna be gleeful and happy about getting swept by the Panthers and losing our last regular season game. Sorry.

Brann · 01-01-2007, 12:46 AM

Who's happy and gleeful about it? Most of us just don't care about it and aren't gonna piss and moan about it. Fast Freddy scored. As an sr.comer said, whether or not you were happy about that tells what kind of Saints fan you are.

blacksaint · 01-01-2007, 01:20 AM

Yo, let's all just take a deep breath for a minute, we're all SAINTS fans here we should be happy, not for the loss, but for the achievement. Being sweep by the Panthers is never good, but damn Goldrush26, you can't tell me that you wouldn't have been piss if one of our starters would have gotten hurt and knock out of the playoffs. Then you would've been saying he shouldn't left them in so long. Let's all agree to disagree, or in the words of a drunken idiot; CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.

leilung · 01-01-2007, 06:29 AM

Some people are talking about Andy Reid as a possible COY candidate. Losing McNabb and winning with a back up has people talking about the system and coaching in Philly as being the prime factors in their success. If they come to NOLA, we really need to look out! The are stealth scary the way they're playing.

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blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach O.k., i give you that, being sweep by the Panthers does leave a bitter taste in the mouth. But don't come down on Coach Payton for being concerned about any of his players being hurt in a meaningless game like this one. Because, if he had kept say Brees in through the 1st half, and he got hurt, or Bush got a high ankle sprain, than this board would be lite up with people upset that he left them in the game that long. So as far as the decision goes to keep certain players out of the game and play others for a mininal time, i support him 100%. GO NFC SOUTH DIVISION CHAMPION SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12-31-2006, 10:54 PM	#22
APSaintsfan 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 119	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach Blacksaint, OK Jamie Martin was getting his butt thrown to the ground alot in this game because Carolina had there massive starting Defense Line in the game til midway thru the 4th quarter. He was 20-26 for over 200 yards. Our backup offensive line was not blocking at all because he was sacked I think 5 times. Give Martin a break. If he had the main offensive line in their for the whole game he gets sacked maybe twice. Brees is not hurt, Jamie Martin is not hurt that we know of so we have one MVP and a good QB as a backup, and this was the point for playing the backups, to win the SB, hell just win the next game and other games.

12-31-2006, 11:06 PM	#23
Brann Ill-tempered Texan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pascagoula, MS Posts: 228	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach Guys, read the injury reports from meaningless games today and then tell me that Payton did the wrong thing. The Seahawks are down to starting their waterboys in the secondary, Cutler got a concussion, Grossman had as many INTs as completions, LT and Rivers got banged up...I'll trust Payton and this coaching staff. Not like we have any reason to doubt them thus far. The Saints' backups hung with the Panthers' STARTERS. Freddy Mac got a rushing TD today...did you see how overjoyed he was with Payton after that? How can you not feel at least okay about the game today? I thought Freddy was gonna cry, he looked so happy.

01-01-2007, 12:13 AM	#24
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach We lost and got swept by the Panthers and I have to hear this garbage about them having the best division record. I can't see how we can feel ok about this game today. Maybe it's nothing to worry about but that doesn't mean I'm gonna throw a party. It won't matter in a couple of weeks when we play our playoff game because they are at home but I don't like losing a division game.
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01-01-2007, 12:19 AM	#25
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton c Originally Posted by APSaintsfan Blacksaint, OK Jamie Martin was getting his butt thrown to the ground alot in this game because Carolina had there massive starting Defense Line in the game til midway thru the 4th quarter. He was 20-26 for over 200 yards. Our backup offensive line was not blocking at all because he was sacked I think 5 times. Give Martin a break. If he had the main offensive line in their for the whole game he gets sacked maybe twice. Brees is not hurt, Jamie Martin is not hurt that we know of so we have one MVP and a good QB as a backup, and this was the point for playing the backups, to win the SB, hell just win the next game and other games. Yo, no disrespect to the kid, but even when he had time, he didn't look like he was ready, and he should have been. We're talking about a 12 year veteran here, you have to remember one thing, he should have been more comfortable with the 2nd and 3rd stringers, because that's who he practice with on a daily basis. I'm sorry, but i have to disagree with you on Jaime Martin, we at lest need to give it a good look in the off season. But I'm not worried about the QB position in the playoffs because Brees was barely touch during the regular season and i don't expect that to change at all. But i do think we need another backup QB. GO NFC SOUTH DIVISION CHAMPION SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-01-2007, 12:25 AM	#26
Brann Ill-tempered Texan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pascagoula, MS Posts: 228	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payt Yeah, it makes much more sense to risk injuries to our starters and get a meaningless win, doesn't it?

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GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Originally Posted by Brann Yeah, it makes much more sense to risk injuries to our starters and get a meaningless win, doesn't it? I already said a few posts ago that I was fine with him resting the players. But there's no way in hell I'm gonna be gleeful and happy about getting swept by the Panthers and losing our last regular season game. Sorry.
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01-01-2007, 12:46 AM	#28
Brann Ill-tempered Texan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pascagoula, MS Posts: 228	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss c Who's happy and gleeful about it? Most of us just don't care about it and aren't gonna piss and moan about it. Fast Freddy scored. As an sr.comer said, whether or not you were happy about that tells what kind of Saints fan you are.

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blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss c Yo, let's all just take a deep breath for a minute, we're all SAINTS fans here we should be happy, not for the loss, but for the achievement. Being sweep by the Panthers is never good, but damn Goldrush26, you can't tell me that you wouldn't have been piss if one of our starters would have gotten hurt and knock out of the playoffs. Then you would've been saying he shouldn't left them in so long. Let's all agree to disagree, or in the words of a drunken idiot; CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.
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01-01-2007, 06:29 AM	#30
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,152	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach Some people are talking about Andy Reid as a possible COY candidate. Losing McNabb and winning with a back up has people talking about the system and coaching in Philly as being the prime factors in their success. If they come to NOLA, we really need to look out! The are stealth scary the way they're playing.