COLSTON's HAILMARY CATCH

Euphoria · 01-15-2007, 11:24 AM

Ya know the more I see this the more I am compelled to bring it up. The Hailmary was a TD!!! He had it in his hands near his waist as he hits the ground and DOWN by contact the ball is then knocked from his hands. He had control of the ball on the way down!!!

sarge06 · 01-15-2007, 11:25 AM

Its ok. You can let it go now. We are headed to the NFC Championship baby!!!!!!!!!

poydras · 01-15-2007, 11:40 AM

That's not the way it works. The rule states that when in contact with a defender, the receiver must control the ball throughout the catch. That means he had to hold the ball after hitting the ground.

maximkat · 01-15-2007, 11:41 AM

ya, poydras is right, gotta keep it through the whole process, after seeing the replay a few times, i wasn't too upset about it, besides, we won it's all good.

xan · 01-15-2007, 12:34 PM

that same issue happened in the Pats-Bolts game. incomplete. and legitimately so.

pakowitz · 01-15-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

That's not the way it works. The rule states that when in contact with a defender, the receiver must control the ball throughout the catch. That means he had to hold the ball after hitting the ground.

i dont actually agree with that because the catch was made in the endzone... as soon as he has control and touches the ground in the endzone.. its a TD.. the fact that the ball came out after he was "down" should be irrelevent on the sole fact that he was in the endzone...

Euphoria · 01-15-2007, 05:05 PM

Yes there are different rules when its in the endzone, you do not have to maintain posession as long as you show you have control. Secondly the ground can not cause a fumble and third he hit the ground and is down by contact. It would be the same if once you are down someone knocks the ball out its not a fumble. There has been may in the endzone where a WR stretches out and holds the ball in his hand and gets his feet in and falls out and the ball comes loose once he hits the ground... its a TD.

poydras · 01-15-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Yes there are different rules when its in the endzone, you do not have to maintain posession as long as you show you have control. Secondly the ground can not cause a fumble and third he hit the ground and is down by contact. It would be the same if once you are down someone knocks the ball out its not a fumble. There has been may in the endzone where a WR stretches out and holds the ball in his hand and gets his feet in and falls out and the ball comes loose once he hits the ground... its a TD.

So what you're saying is that the rules don't apply to us?
Anyway, there's an easy was to find out for sure. Go to nfl.com and check the box score.

pakowitz · 01-15-2007, 05:54 PM

no they do apply to us.. the refs made the wrong call... payton said they talked to the refs at halftime about it and showed them the whole thing

mighty12 · 01-15-2007, 05:58 PM

It was a catch whether he was in the endzone or not. Colston caught the ball hit the ground and the Eagles defender THEN ripped the ball out of his hands. He was down by contact before the ball came out. Andy Reid was smart to get his team in the locker room.

01-15-2007, 11:24 AM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	COLSTON's HAILMARY CATCH Ya know the more I see this the more I am compelled to bring it up. The Hailmary was a TD!!! He had it in his hands near his waist as he hits the ground and DOWN by contact the ball is then knocked from his hands. He had control of the ball on the way down!!!

01-15-2007, 11:25 AM	#2
sarge06 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denham Springs, LA Posts: 212	RE: COLSTON Its ok. You can let it go now. We are headed to the NFC Championship baby!!!!!!!!!

01-15-2007, 11:40 AM	#3
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	RE: COLSTON That's not the way it works. The rule states that when in contact with a defender, the receiver must control the ball throughout the catch. That means he had to hold the ball after hitting the ground.

01-15-2007, 02:23 PM	#6
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: RE: COLSTON Originally Posted by poydras That's not the way it works. The rule states that when in contact with a defender, the receiver must control the ball throughout the catch. That means he had to hold the ball after hitting the ground. i dont actually agree with that because the catch was made in the endzone... as soon as he has control and touches the ground in the endzone.. its a TD.. the fact that the ball came out after he was "down" should be irrelevent on the sole fact that he was in the endzone...

01-15-2007, 05:05 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Re: RE: COLSTON Yes there are different rules when its in the endzone, you do not have to maintain posession as long as you show you have control. Secondly the ground can not cause a fumble and third he hit the ground and is down by contact. It would be the same if once you are down someone knocks the ball out its not a fumble. There has been may in the endzone where a WR stretches out and holds the ball in his hand and gets his feet in and falls out and the ball comes loose once he hits the ground... its a TD.
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01-15-2007, 11:41 AM	#4
maximkat ChocolateMilk Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Live Free or Die Posts: 362	ya, poydras is right, gotta keep it through the whole process, after seeing the replay a few times, i wasn't too upset about it, besides, we won it's all good.

01-15-2007, 12:34 PM	#5
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	that same issue happened in the Pats-Bolts game. incomplete. and legitimately so.

01-15-2007, 05:38 PM	#8
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: RE: Re: RE: COLSTON Originally Posted by Euphoria Yes there are different rules when its in the endzone, you do not have to maintain posession as long as you show you have control. Secondly the ground can not cause a fumble and third he hit the ground and is down by contact. It would be the same if once you are down someone knocks the ball out its not a fumble. There has been may in the endzone where a WR stretches out and holds the ball in his hand and gets his feet in and falls out and the ball comes loose once he hits the ground... its a TD. So what you're saying is that the rules don't apply to us? Anyway, there's an easy was to find out for sure. Go to nfl.com and check the box score.

01-15-2007, 05:54 PM	#9
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: COLSTON no they do apply to us.. the refs made the wrong call... payton said they talked to the refs at halftime about it and showed them the whole thing

01-15-2007, 05:58 PM	#10
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: COLSTON It was a catch whether he was in the endzone or not. Colston caught the ball hit the ground and the Eagles defender THEN ripped the ball out of his hands. He was down by contact before the ball came out. Andy Reid was smart to get his team in the locker room.