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not a 3rd, but would you give a 4th for carr?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheDeuce I don't think we need another backup QB. Martin isn't stellar, but he is what he is: a backup QB. That being said, I've always been a fan of Carr. I think he is a good ...

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Old 01-28-2007, 11:01 PM   #11
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Re: RE: not a 3rd, but would you give a 4th for carr?

Originally Posted by TheDeuce
I don't think we need another backup QB. Martin isn't stellar, but he is what he is: a backup QB. That being said, I've always been a fan of Carr. I think he is a good QB, not elite level, but good nonetheless. Like everybody knows, he plays behind quite possibly the worst offensive line in NFL history. Also, don't underestimate how much it hurts him that Houston has never had a great running attack to take some pressure off of him. I like Carr, but it doesn't make sense to use a pick for him when we have the position covered, and other holes to fill.
Miller is nothing more than a back up but he did fill in nicely for the Rams when their starter went down when he played there. He should get some playing time when the Saints get big leads so I don't see the Saints going after Carr, we have other needs, they can use the last pick for a QB for Payton to groom or a free agent
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:05 AM   #12
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RE: Re: RE: not a 3rd, but would you give a 4th for carr?

I'm sure you meant Martin, not Miller, but I seem to remember him getting his clock cleaned on a regular basis, until he was replaced by the Harvard guy. Martin = Bouman. No one is going to convince me otherwise.
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RE: Re: RE: not a 3rd, but would you give a 4th for carr?

Passing
Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate
1993 L.A. Rams 0 0 0 0 --- 0 --- 0 0 0 0/0 0 0 ---
1994 L.A. Rams 0 0 0 0 --- 0 --- 0 0 0 0/0 0 0 ---
1995 St. Louis Rams 0 0 0 0 --- 0 --- 0 0 0 0/0 0 0 ---
1996 St. Louis Rams 6 0 34 23 67.6 241 7.09 22 3 2 4/34 2 0 92.9
1997 Washington Redskins 0 0 0 0 --- 0 --- 0 0 0 0/0 0 0 ---
1998 Jacksonville Jaguars 4 1 45 27 60.0 355 7.89 67 2 0 2/10 6 1 99.8
1999 Cleveland Browns 0 0 0 0 --- 0 --- 0 0 0 0/0 0 0 ---
2000 Jacksonville Jaguars 5 0 33 22 66.7 307 9.30 65 2 1 0/0 3 2 104.0
2001 St. Louis Rams 5 0 3 3 100.0 22 7.33 10 0 0 2/7 0 0 97.2
2002 St. Louis Rams 5 2 195 124 63.6 1216 6.24 33 7 10 10/77 15 0 71.7
2003 New York Jets 0 0 0 0 --- 0 --- 0 0 0 0/0 0 0 ---
2004 St. Louis Rams 1 0 30 16 53.3 188 6.27 26 0 0 2/6 3 0 72.6
2005 St. Louis Rams 8 5 177 124 70.1 1277 7.21 83 5 7 11/78 12 3 83.5
2006 New Orleans Saints 16 0 24 16 66.7 208 8.67 65 1 1 5/18 4 2 90.3
TOTAL 50 8 541 355 65.6 3814 7.05 83 20 21 36/230 45 8 82.3

Found Martin's stats...He's a hit and miss guy. Had a couple of good seasons. Kind of reminds me of Tolliver, or Bouman.

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First off I am a huge Carr fan. It's easy to get down on the guy but I watch a lot of texans games and the guy is a competitor with a great attitude. He would be a nice fit for us as a backup.

I'm not 100% certain but do we not get a 3rd rounder from the Eagles when they sign Donte? Look at it like this, Stallworth for Simoneau and Carr, taken into account that we trade that 3rd rounder and get Carr.That seems pretty good to me.

Now as for Carr not wanting to be a backup? Do U think he'll smell the playoffs anytime soon with Houst? That can serve for some motivation to a player.

I look at Joey Harringtons situation in Det. Carr is in a similar situation playing for a bad team yet he himself has tons of potential, plus I think he is better then Harrington.. I think like Harrington he has been given the reigns of a team for a fair amount of time but is yet to produce the results the team excpects of him. It is time to prove he can handle it in this league as a backup before another team might be willing to hand him the reigns once again.

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Old 01-29-2007, 06:37 AM   #15
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"I'm not 100% certain but do we not get a 3rd rounder from the Eagles when they sign Donte? Look at it like this, Stallworth for Simoneau and Carr, taken into account that we trade that 3rd rounder and get Carr.That seems pretty good to me. "
The Saints received a fourth round choice with it being a conditional third round choice if Stallworth negotiates and signs a contract with the Eagles prior to free agency.
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:13 AM   #16
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Carr has never had the OLine that he needs to be a good QB. I truely believe the guy IS a starter but we don't need him. Martin will be fine with our OLine IF something were to happen to Drew. Will he put up the same numbers as Drew??? Of course not, but he will be fine. Defense should be top priority, followed by a great TE.
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I would have no issue if the Saints decided to go after Carr. I have nothing bad to say about Martin, but I think Carr would be an upgrade. The Saints were very lucky in that Brees was injury free the entire year. Nothing against Martin, but if Brees would have gotten injured for a stretch, then the season would have probably been lost. With a backup like Carr, it should be less of an issue if Brees goes down. If Carr can be had for a 3rd or 4th round pick, the Saints should do it either way.
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:39 PM   #18
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I've seen Carr make plays out of thin air since he landed (unluckily) with the Texans. Houston is an idiot for getting rid of Carr and not working on the offensive line. If he does (I hope) land in New Orleans, consider it another gift from the Texans. He's a great quarterback, just needs a team. Perfect example is Frank Gore with the 49ers. He IS the offense. He's got a decent OLine, but let's be honest, he's been a great running back playing for a mediocre team - same with Carr.

Carr gets my guranteed stamp of approval.

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Old 02-01-2007, 11:13 PM   #19
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The Carr trade sounds good, really good. Its much better than Martin, I either drop Martin and sign Anthony Wright or drop Martin and get Anthony Wright
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:21 PM   #20
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Carr for a 4th rounder? Hell yeah!!! **** I'd take him for a 3rd...


It's not like we currently have Jake Delhomme as a backup...
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