Tank Johnson Waived

Nemesis · 06-27-2007, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Cassady37

All it takes is one player with a history of run-ins with the law to spark a team's downward spiral. Maybe a couple of players like him, want to start hanging out with him, soon, a few more, then the inevitable happens and that player does something else to get in trouble and the team releases him. Now his 'friends' ,who have grown to like him and buy in to the BS he spouts, take an attitude with the powers that be. Shortly thereafter you have a divided locker room and all the hard work that was put into building a championship caliber team is suddenly teetering on becoming a Bengals team. You may say this view is extreme but I say, after all the years of seeing what used to be in our locker room, do you really want to chance it? Taking a chance with a borderline player when we know we can make a Superbowl run with what we have?

Yes, that was extreme. Tank was never a locker room cancer. One player cannot bring down a team full of players on a mision to reach the promised land. Not this team. Not these players. Simmons and his buddy from Sinsinaty came here, attracted by the positive atmosphere. Same reason the old Niners and the Pats bag players. People said Dillon would be a cancer.

Cassady37 · 06-27-2007, 03:15 PM

I respectfully disagree, when you go to jail, miss eight games when you're team needs you and then violate your probation, you're a 'cancer'. And now the team doesn't have him at all. You don't see any adverse effects that has on the Bears? Why chance that with this team? And as far as Dillon, Simmons and buddy are concerned, you're comparing apples to oranges, they aren't bringing negative baggage in terms of prison time and another run-in with the law. And the reason this team is focused and on a 'mission' is because we don't have players like that here to disrupt with outside activity. And one player, if allowed to stay on the team, can bring down a whole team. maybe not entirely by himself but he can go a long ways towards that end. Just ask anyone associated with T.O.

Nemesis · 06-27-2007, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

body guard was killed outside a nightclub after all those guns found at his house. Thug, pure and simple. Goddell gives him another chance and then he screws up yet again. These guys can hire body guards but not hire drivers or take taxi's? Stupidity comes to mind. I don't want this BUM on my team, that's for sure.

This "thug" term is thrown around too quickly by some. Tanks didn't shoot at anyone. He paid his dues for having unregistered weapons in his home. A misdemeanor. He drove 40 in a 25, and couldn't blow enough fumes to be arrested. Until subsequent testing results come in, I'm reserving judgement.

A commited Tank may pan out to be another in a long line of windfalls blessing the Saints, through strange circumstances. Brees..Colston..Simmons..Fujita..Matrix..
You get the picture. Tank is a stud, and wouldn't cost a draft pick. How often would prospects of his caliber even fall to us in the draft? If he doesn't work out... Oh, well. We'll move along. The sun will still rise the next morn. The Saints will still be contenders.

Nemesis · 06-27-2007, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Cassady37

I respectfully disagree, when you go to jail, miss eight games when you're team needs you and then violate your probation, you're a 'cancer'. And now the team doesn't have him at all. You don't see any adverse effects that has on the Bears? Why chance that with this team? And as far as Dillon, Simmons and buddy are concerned, you're comparing apples to oranges, they aren't bringing negative baggage in terms of prison time and another run-in with the law. And the reason this team is focused and on a 'mission' is because we don't have players like that here to disrupt with outside activity. And one player, if allowed to stay on the team, can bring down a whole team. maybe not entirely by himself but he can go a long ways towards that end. Just ask anyone associated with T.O.

We have a good DT rotation, and Tank would merely be a matter of risk/reward. Same as TO and Moss. The Pats and Cowgirls can afford to take those risks, because they'll roll on without those players. So will the Saints.

Say what you will about TO, but he's one of the most feared WRs in the league. Jones vouches for him, and that's good enough for me.

Euphoria · 06-27-2007, 04:05 PM

He isn't a thug... and he did his time and now the NFL's suspension, there has been other players to get DUI's but I don't think it will result in any more games. This DUI as weird that they called it SLIGHT. Get him a check and a jersay and tell him to take a cab for now on.

We are way to close to being serious contenders... its a slight risk and huge reward.

See you week 9, Tank.

WhoDat205 · 06-28-2007, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

He isn't a thug... and he did his time and now the NFL's suspension, there has been other players to get DUI's but I don't think it will result in any more games. This DUI as weird that they called it SLIGHT. Get him a check and a jersay and tell him to take a cab for now on.

We are way to close to being serious contenders... its a slight risk and huge reward.

See you week 9, Tank.

Also had some time to think on this one...I really feel like Tank is trying to turn it around. As a counter to the "locker room cancer" argument, he may just need the right environment to pull out of his "downward spiral".

He's a quality DT that will come at a big discount. I think the team should seriously consider persuing Tank.

saintsfan1976 · 06-28-2007, 08:20 AM

Which Bear Brass was the one that actually pulled the trigger on Tank? We all know it wasn't Lovie!

From what we've seen of Lovie, he will stick it out with a player through thick and thin....take Grossman for example. Now "Rexy" 'aint no "Tank". It seems odd to me that the Bears would be so quick to eject Tank unless word came down from above that Tank has to go to save face for our organization.

Now on to the traffic stop.... Why aren't the Bears waiting to see the outcome? The officer could have pulled Tank over for "suspicion" and halfway into the routine, realized he had nothing and had no choice but to let him go. Maybe the "slight impairment" comes as a result of backpeddaling by the officer to cover his own a$$....

saintsfan1976 · 06-28-2007, 08:23 AM

And as far as signing Tank to the Saints.... I'm still up in the air.

Risk vs. Reward. Does it balance for Coach Payton? Has he EVER tipped the scales in the favor of risk? He's already done his "spring cleaning" of the organization.... Why would he want to bring a dirty dog into his clean house?

On the other hand, having him in the organization for 8 games at no risk could benefit our team tremendously. Smith, Grant, Tank????

06-27-2007, 02:37 PM	#21
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Originally Posted by Cassady37 All it takes is one player with a history of run-ins with the law to spark a team's downward spiral. Maybe a couple of players like him, want to start hanging out with him, soon, a few more, then the inevitable happens and that player does something else to get in trouble and the team releases him. Now his 'friends' ,who have grown to like him and buy in to the BS he spouts, take an attitude with the powers that be. Shortly thereafter you have a divided locker room and all the hard work that was put into building a championship caliber team is suddenly teetering on becoming a Bengals team. You may say this view is extreme but I say, after all the years of seeing what used to be in our locker room, do you really want to chance it? Taking a chance with a borderline player when we know we can make a Superbowl run with what we have? Yes, that was extreme. Tank was never a locker room cancer. One player cannot bring down a team full of players on a mision to reach the promised land. Not this team. Not these players. Simmons and his buddy from Sinsinaty came here, attracted by the positive atmosphere. Same reason the old Niners and the Pats bag players. People said Dillon would be a cancer.

06-27-2007, 03:24 PM	#23
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Originally Posted by saintsmissile body guard was killed outside a nightclub after all those guns found at his house. Thug, pure and simple. Goddell gives him another chance and then he screws up yet again. These guys can hire body guards but not hire drivers or take taxi's? Stupidity comes to mind. I don't want this BUM on my team, that's for sure. This "thug" term is thrown around too quickly by some. Tanks didn't shoot at anyone. He paid his dues for having unregistered weapons in his home. A misdemeanor. He drove 40 in a 25, and couldn't blow enough fumes to be arrested. Until subsequent testing results come in, I'm reserving judgement. A commited Tank may pan out to be another in a long line of windfalls blessing the Saints, through strange circumstances. Brees..Colston..Simmons..Fujita..Matrix.. You get the picture. Tank is a stud, and wouldn't cost a draft pick. How often would prospects of his caliber even fall to us in the draft? If he doesn't work out... Oh, well. We'll move along. The sun will still rise the next morn. The Saints will still be contenders.

06-27-2007, 03:35 PM	#24
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Originally Posted by Cassady37 I respectfully disagree, when you go to jail, miss eight games when you're team needs you and then violate your probation, you're a 'cancer'. And now the team doesn't have him at all. You don't see any adverse effects that has on the Bears? Why chance that with this team? And as far as Dillon, Simmons and buddy are concerned, you're comparing apples to oranges, they aren't bringing negative baggage in terms of prison time and another run-in with the law. And the reason this team is focused and on a 'mission' is because we don't have players like that here to disrupt with outside activity. And one player, if allowed to stay on the team, can bring down a whole team. maybe not entirely by himself but he can go a long ways towards that end. Just ask anyone associated with T.O. We have a good DT rotation, and Tank would merely be a matter of risk/reward. Same as TO and Moss. The Pats and Cowgirls can afford to take those risks, because they'll roll on without those players. So will the Saints. Say what you will about TO, but he's one of the most feared WRs in the league. Jones vouches for him, and that's good enough for me.

06-28-2007, 08:09 AM	#26
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Euphoria He isn't a thug... and he did his time and now the NFL's suspension, there has been other players to get DUI's but I don't think it will result in any more games. This DUI as weird that they called it SLIGHT. Get him a check and a jersay and tell him to take a cab for now on. We are way to close to being serious contenders... its a slight risk and huge reward. See you week 9, Tank. Also had some time to think on this one...I really feel like Tank is trying to turn it around. As a counter to the "locker room cancer" argument, he may just need the right environment to pull out of his "downward spiral". He's a quality DT that will come at a big discount. I think the team should seriously consider persuing Tank.

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Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	I respectfully disagree, when you go to jail, miss eight games when you're team needs you and then violate your probation, you're a 'cancer'. And now the team doesn't have him at all. You don't see any adverse effects that has on the Bears? Why chance that with this team? And as far as Dillon, Simmons and buddy are concerned, you're comparing apples to oranges, they aren't bringing negative baggage in terms of prison time and another run-in with the law. And the reason this team is focused and on a 'mission' is because we don't have players like that here to disrupt with outside activity. And one player, if allowed to stay on the team, can bring down a whole team. maybe not entirely by himself but he can go a long ways towards that end. Just ask anyone associated with T.O.

06-27-2007, 04:05 PM	#25
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	He isn't a thug... and he did his time and now the NFL's suspension, there has been other players to get DUI's but I don't think it will result in any more games. This DUI as weird that they called it SLIGHT. Get him a check and a jersay and tell him to take a cab for now on. We are way to close to being serious contenders... its a slight risk and huge reward. See you week 9, Tank.

06-28-2007, 08:20 AM	#27
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,528 Blog Entries: 3	Which Bear Brass was the one that actually pulled the trigger on Tank? We all know it wasn't Lovie! From what we've seen of Lovie, he will stick it out with a player through thick and thin....take Grossman for example. Now "Rexy" 'aint no "Tank". It seems odd to me that the Bears would be so quick to eject Tank unless word came down from above that Tank has to go to save face for our organization. Now on to the traffic stop.... Why aren't the Bears waiting to see the outcome? The officer could have pulled Tank over for "suspicion" and halfway into the routine, realized he had nothing and had no choice but to let him go. Maybe the "slight impairment" comes as a result of backpeddaling by the officer to cover his own a$$....

06-28-2007, 08:23 AM	#28
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,528 Blog Entries: 3	And as far as signing Tank to the Saints.... I'm still up in the air. Risk vs. Reward. Does it balance for Coach Payton? Has he EVER tipped the scales in the favor of risk? He's already done his "spring cleaning" of the organization.... Why would he want to bring a dirty dog into his clean house? On the other hand, having him in the organization for 8 games at no risk could benefit our team tremendously. Smith, Grant, Tank????