Rumor: Tank Johnson to the Saints

Bobaganoosh · 07-03-2007, 02:53 PM

Pass...the Saints have done so much in the last 2 years to build a team of character with no off field issues...this would be a move in the opposite direction and i think Payton would lose some credibility if he brought him in.

JOESAM2002 · 07-03-2007, 02:59 PM

If and only if, he can convince Payton that he has changed and wants to be a team player. If not see Ya!

P.S. Some of these guys need to read my signatures.

Bobaganoosh · 07-03-2007, 03:42 PM

in regards to tank johnson, some people need to read my signature.

papz · 07-03-2007, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

Pass...the Saints have done so much in the last 2 years to build a team of character with no off field issues...this would be a move in the opposite direction and i think Payton would lose some credibility if he brought him in.

Although I believe Johnson would bring unwarranted attention to the team, I seriously doubt Payton would lose any credibility especially with how he's turned this organization around. Look at Bilichek in New England... this offseason he's signed Randy Moss and drafted Meriweather. On the top of that he was having an affair with a married woman. People aren't making a big deal out of any of it. Nothing wrong with throwing a talented player a bone, especially if there's little risk involved imo. If he screws up, cut him.

ssmitty · 07-03-2007, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I would pass all the way, but that's just me. This guy had like an arsenal of guns at his house. We don't need more guns in New Orleans. He also can't seem to stop having run ins with the law, whether he was drunk this time or not. Pass, pass, pass.

what are you kidding? n.o. is the perfect place to dry out..........

MatthewT · 07-03-2007, 07:44 PM

A few days ago I would have said no way. I am starting to think a little different now. Yes, he has made some bad mistakes, but maybe he is willing to straighten out. Would not be a bad pickup, let him play during training camp and preseason, then work him into the rotation after the 8th game. Chances are he would start to peak during the last four games of the season, which would be a blessing since by that time the Saints D-Line will probably be a little banged up.

BiggPoppaFro4 · 07-03-2007, 08:49 PM

Pass...and don't think twice

He wasn't DUI, but still was driving and had alcohol in his system. Just b/c he didn't blow a .08 doesn't exactly absolve him...it simply means he isn't as guilty of being a dumbass and driving impaired.

I mean, come on....you already have the spotlight on you and then you go out speeding with liquor on your breath? WTF? He may be talented, I'll grant him that, but at what point do you pull your head out and actually start to try to be the "Man of the Year"? Next time?...the time after that?...

I think we have far too many better options to us, and if it means our D struggles, or has to make do in another way...In Gibbs I Trust

WVSaint · 07-03-2007, 08:59 PM

with or without the alcohol, hes guilty of being a dumb ass

Nemesis · 07-03-2007, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by BiggPoppaFro4

Pass...and don't think twice

He wasn't DUI, but still was driving and had alcohol in his system. Just b/c he didn't blow a .08 doesn't exactly absolve him...it simply means he isn't as guilty of being a dumbass and driving impaired.

Yes, blowing lower than .08 does absolve him. Perhaps not in your minds, but in the minds of those who matter. Those of the police, District Attorneys, and Judges. I have come to realize that most of those who are always so quick to call someone a dumbass, have usually pulled something dumber during their lifetimes.

ScottyRo · 07-03-2007, 09:14 PM

That may absolve him of criminal liability, but it really tells me the man just got very lucky. He was only .008 from being legally DUI, but the point is that he put himself THAT close to it in the first place after all he has been through.

07-03-2007, 04:08 PM	#14
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh Pass...the Saints have done so much in the last 2 years to build a team of character with no off field issues...this would be a move in the opposite direction and i think Payton would lose some credibility if he brought him in. Although I believe Johnson would bring unwarranted attention to the team, I seriously doubt Payton would lose any credibility especially with how he's turned this organization around. Look at Bilichek in New England... this offseason he's signed Randy Moss and drafted Meriweather. On the top of that he was having an affair with a married woman. People aren't making a big deal out of any of it. Nothing wrong with throwing a talented player a bone, especially if there's little risk involved imo. If he screws up, cut him.
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07-03-2007, 05:11 PM	#15
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by saintswhodi I would pass all the way, but that's just me. This guy had like an arsenal of guns at his house. We don't need more guns in New Orleans. He also can't seem to stop having run ins with the law, whether he was drunk this time or not. Pass, pass, pass. what are you kidding? n.o. is the perfect place to dry out..........
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07-03-2007, 08:49 PM	#17
BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	Pass...and don't think twice He wasn't DUI, but still was driving and had alcohol in his system. Just b/c he didn't blow a .08 doesn't exactly absolve him...it simply means he isn't as guilty of being a dumbass and driving impaired. I mean, come on....you already have the spotlight on you and then you go out speeding with liquor on your breath? WTF? He may be talented, I'll grant him that, but at what point do you pull your head out and actually start to try to be the "Man of the Year"? Next time?...the time after that?... I think we have far too many better options to us, and if it means our D struggles, or has to make do in another way...In Gibbs I Trust
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07-03-2007, 09:10 PM	#19
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Originally Posted by BiggPoppaFro4 Pass...and don't think twice He wasn't DUI, but still was driving and had alcohol in his system. Just b/c he didn't blow a .08 doesn't exactly absolve him...it simply means he isn't as guilty of being a dumbass and driving impaired. Yes, blowing lower than .08 does absolve him. Perhaps not in your minds, but in the minds of those who matter. Those of the police, District Attorneys, and Judges. I have come to realize that most of those who are always so quick to call someone a dumbass, have usually pulled something dumber during their lifetimes.
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Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Pass...the Saints have done so much in the last 2 years to build a team of character with no off field issues...this would be a move in the opposite direction and i think Payton would lose some credibility if he brought him in.

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JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	If and only if, he can convince Payton that he has changed and wants to be a team player. If not see Ya! P.S. Some of these guys need to read my signatures.

07-03-2007, 03:42 PM	#13
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	in regards to tank johnson, some people need to read my signature.

07-03-2007, 07:44 PM	#16
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	A few days ago I would have said no way. I am starting to think a little different now. Yes, he has made some bad mistakes, but maybe he is willing to straighten out. Would not be a bad pickup, let him play during training camp and preseason, then work him into the rotation after the 8th game. Chances are he would start to peak during the last four games of the season, which would be a blessing since by that time the Saints D-Line will probably be a little banged up.

07-03-2007, 08:59 PM	#18
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	with or without the alcohol, hes guilty of being a dumb ass

07-03-2007, 09:14 PM	#20
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	That may absolve him of criminal liability, but it really tells me the man just got very lucky. He was only .008 from being legally DUI, but the point is that he put himself THAT close to it in the first place after all he has been through.