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WhoDat205 10-02-2007 08:29 AM

The Draft
 
If the draft were today, what position would be at the top of the list as far as need?

WhoDatQB 10-02-2007 09:36 AM

Re: The Draft
 
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Originally Posted by WhoDat205 (Post 140829)
If the draft were today, what position would be at the top of the list as far as need?

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LB and CB's are great, but if you have a dominant D line then you do not need domination on either one. O line and D line are how to fix what ails us. Champ Bailey wouldn't fix us with how much time the opposing QB's are getting, the idea that people think we need a CB before a D line still blows my mind.

You could have a mind reading Champ Bailey in the backfield and if the D line doesn't get pressure then unless your whole D backfield is a mind reading Champ Bailey YOU WILL NOT WIN GAMES.

However if we have an O line we can stay on the field longer, sustain drives, and keep the opposing Offense off the field and we can recreate last year. If we want to keep a high performing team we need an O line and a D line.

saintsfan1313 10-02-2007 11:36 AM

Re: The Draft
 
our DE's are rushing the outside, like they are supposed to do, but when we have no force or push in the middle, all the QB has to do is take a step forward. Watch film the past couple games, Grant and Smith come flying on the outside and the QB just steps forward to avoid them and complete the pass. A great push inside will give the QB no where to go with our DE's owning the outsides.....

WhoDatQB 10-02-2007 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 140851)
Negative, ghostrider. Get real man. We have ZERO sacks from our DE position. ZERO! So I guess when M.Strahan had all those sacks he had two all pro DT's on the team? Nada. Fact is, Grant and Smith are as much to blame as anyone. PERIOD! If I remember correctly, the only defensive lineman to actually play well was Thomas and Young. For the most part, they held a very good running Tenn team in check. You're barkin' up the wrong tree here.

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Staying in your lanes is different from getting push. You can play the run good and not get any push. If you do not get push your DE's will not get to the QB. I am not agreeing with the above poster, but if your QB can just step to avoid them because of a lack of interior push you will never get a sack. Look back at the Titans game, Drew could never just step up, Haynesworth had an amazing push just about every play. Just because we perform well against the run does not mean our DT's are playing well and our DE's are playing bad.

saintsfan1313 10-02-2007 02:06 PM

Re: The Draft
 
watch the film on the game....see how many times the QB just steps forward to avoid the rush......and look at the QB's we have played against so far. Manning, one of the fewest sackd qb's in recent years, and 2 mobile qb's in Garcia and Young. I think most of the problem is the DT getting no push.....WhoDatQB said it best, they are staying in their lanes, but that has nothing to do with push........easy to stop runners, but gives QB's plenty of room behind the line...I may be barking up the wrong tree, but yer no where near the right forest buddy

mjf150 10-02-2007 02:21 PM

Re: The Draft
 
I'm thinking about limiting all of this "next year", "free-agents", and "draft" B.S., when we have only played three games. Yeah, we've lost all three of them and I'm as ticked as everyone else, but I'm not ready to throw in the towel and start talking about next year, and who we're going to draft, or what FA do we need to sign.

Euphoria 10-02-2007 02:31 PM

Re: The Draft
 
Well one comes to a forum to discuss the games, players, teams and whatever else we want to discuss about our team. There isn't anything wrong about discussing the future of the team and the direction we should move towards.

I personlly am tired of saying year after year what we should do and get jumped on by people because we should get a CB we need a LB, and the Reggie crap. We have done it your way we got reggie we did this, we did that... WAKE UP! We need an OL and a DL from hell! No CB, no LB, no QB, no RB can fix our woes if we don't have a dominating o-line and d-line. They are the ones that control the game, clock and protect and buy your key players time. We have to sacrafice a couple of years and work on the damn lines already.

frankeefrank 10-02-2007 03:43 PM

Re: The Draft
 
I understand all your arguments... But could we maybe draft a CB in the first round some time before I die to just see if that helps our defense????


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