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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; First, no one since Norm Chow was at USC has anyone known how to use Reggie...in games when he was struggling rushing the ball...He would line him up as the #1 WR and actually use him in the passing game...Have ...

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Old 10-10-2007, 12:57 AM   #1
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First, no one since Norm Chow was at USC has anyone known how to use Reggie...in games when he was struggling rushing the ball...He would line him up as the #1 WR and actually use him in the passing game...Have him running 15 yard comebacks, go routes, 12 yard digs, posts, etc....Using just about the complete WR playbook..he would move from the slot to the X to the Z...Hell, even games he was running well he'd still see 4 or 5 plays running quick slants, fades..I haven't been to Saints practices, but my feeling is that #25 is the best WR on the team. He was the best WR at USC when Mike Williams, Dwayne Jarrett and Steve Smith were all there.

Second, is it me or is every pass Reggie catches a 1 or 2 yard play out in the flats? Not only that, but how many times is he going to be left in to chip a DE or LB, then bouncing out as a "dump off" option for Brees if the play breaks down? Sorry that's not productive and it isn't using his talents at all.


Third, ever since the time of the draft people have said, Reggie can't run inside. Excuse me? Someone here can re-check the film if they want...but I have seen every USC game since 1997 and I have been on the sidelines since 2003 (I only say this to give an indication of my perspective...that it's not coming from someone with just a hope and wish)..3/4's of all of Reggie's runs of more than 20 yards came between the tackles. Every single one of his runs of greater than 50 yards (but one) came between the tackles....Now, when he gets passed the LB's he usually heads to the sideline, but the run against Arkansas was a iso-trap through the 1 hole....between the guard and center. His famous cut back run against fresno? behind the right hip of the LT. Countless other examples...The notion that he can't run between the tackles is a myth.

Fourth, it seems to me as though his own coach has bought into the press clippings that you can't run Reggie that much..or you can't run him inside....And this has led to insanely predictable plays and opportunities that no one would have much success with.

Fifth, LT had 21 carries for 67 yards this week also. kind of strange.

Sixth, maybe he could stand to use a little more bulk in his legs...weightroom strength doesn't always translate to field strength. But the kid is pound for pound the strongest RB in the league. He's benching over 450 and squats well over 500 pounds. But again, he might need a little more surface area so to speak so that he has a better chance to run through tackles, rather than either slipping out of them or going down.

...His one weakness as a RB is short yardage and goalline situations...Never been his strength and probably won't ever be...but that's far different than saying he can't run between the tackles..which is just simply false....

I'm sure some of these topics have been discussed and I apologize for clogging up the board..I just felt like as someone who has known him since he was a freshman at USC and has continued to keep in close contact with him, that you all might be interested...


*I'll leave with this....Ultimately, Reggie is far too talented to not be producing...and I'm not going to say it's 100% all on the coaches...but, I thought USC did a poor job with him in his JR year and he set records...so, I think Payton does need to re-evaluate the ways in which he uses him.
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First, no one since Norm Chow was at USC has anyone known how to use Reggie...in games when he was struggling rushing the ball...He would line him up as the #1 WR and actually use him in the passing game...Have him running 15 yard comebacks, go routes, 12 yard digs, posts, etc....Using just about the complete WR playbook..he would move from the slot to the X to the Z...Hell, even games he was running well he'd still see 4 or 5 plays running quick slants, fades..I haven't been to Saints practices, but my feeling is that #25 is the best WR on the team. He was the best WR at USC when Mike Williams, Dwayne Jarrett and Steve Smith were all there.

Second, is it me or is every pass Reggie catches a 1 or 2 yard play out in the flats? Not only that, but how many times is he going to be left in to chip a DE or LB, then bouncing out as a "dump off" option for Brees if the play breaks down? Sorry that's not productive and it isn't using his talents at all.


Third, ever since the time of the draft people have said, Reggie can't run inside. Excuse me? Someone here can re-check the film if they want...but I have seen every USC game since 1997 and I have been on the sidelines since 2003 (I only say this to give an indication of my perspective...that it's not coming from someone with just a hope and wish)..3/4's of all of Reggie's runs of more than 20 yards came between the tackles. Every single one of his runs of greater than 50 yards (but one) came between the tackles....Now, when he gets passed the LB's he usually heads to the sideline, but the run against Arkansas was a iso-trap through the 1 hole....between the guard and center. His famous cut back run against fresno? behind the right hip of the LT. Countless other examples...The notion that he can't run between the tackles is a myth.

Fourth, it seems to me as though his own coach has bought into the press clippings that you can't run Reggie that much..or you can't run him inside....And this has led to insanely predictable plays and opportunities that no one would have much success with.

Fifth, LT had 21 carries for 67 yards this week also. kind of strange.

Sixth, maybe he could stand to use a little more bulk in his legs...weightroom strength doesn't always translate to field strength. But the kid is pound for pound the strongest RB in the league. He's benching over 450 and squats well over 500 pounds. But again, he might need a little more surface area so to speak so that he has a better chance to run through tackles, rather than either slipping out of them or going down.

...His one weakness as a RB is short yardage and goalline situations...Never been his strength and probably won't ever be...but that's far different than saying he can't run between the tackles..which is just simply false....

I'm sure some of these topics have been discussed and I apologize for clogging up the board..I just felt like as someone who has known him since he was a freshman at USC and has continued to keep in close contact with him, that you all might be interested...


*I'll leave with this....Ultimately, Reggie is far too talented to not be producing...and I'm not going to say it's 100% all on the coaches...but, I thought USC did a poor job with him in his JR year and he set records...so, I think Payton does need to re-evaluate the ways in which he uses him.
I can help you out on this...

FIND AN OFFENSIVE LINE TO BLOCK FOR HIM!!!

According to the games you claim to have seen you won't be able to deny that USC had an offensive line! The problem isn't with Reggie and maybe to blame on the coaches for not going after top teir O and D linemen.
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