David Patten
 

Did you notice that 1st quarter catch by Patten where he broke a tackle and turned it up field for a big gain? ... well, we're lucky the Jags didn't review that play because Patten went down from tripping on his own feet and got up and spiked the ball before he was touched by a Jag. If you'll watch the highlights you'll see what I'm talking about.

I'm not throwing rocks at Patten, he played his butt off, but that was a bonehead mistake that he got away with.

Re: David Patten
 

LOL they are going to ride is butt all week about that one. I would love to be in the film room. Tripped himself and declared himself down. that is great. humble pie for the vet. I missed that one.

Re: David Patten
 

I didn't. I was having a fit over that play. Patten needed to get up and continue running. He wasn't down by contact. I was certain that he had turned the ball over.

SFIAH

Re: David Patten
 

I agree that Patten was not down, but I wonder if the refs blew the wistle before he got up and spiked it.

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He still played a great game... we did get lucky on that call. I'm loving the 3 WR set with Colston, Patten, and Moore.

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He had a great game. But yes, that one play was a boneheaded move.

We got a lucky break on that one.

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I agree he's a vet he would have got up and gone... there must have been a whistle. I'll have to go back and look at the tape tonight.

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Yes, I was worried about the Jags reviewing it. If the refs blew the whistle it couldn't be reviewed but the problem I still have is our inability to get up to the line and snap the ball to avoid a challenge. Brees did get us to the line but had to audible to get a play called giving the Jags plenty of time to challenge unless they knew it couldn't be challenged.

Re: David Patten
 

I just watched this play a couple more times.

Patten was clearly touched by 3 or 4 defenders during the run. The last contact came about 5 yards before he hit the turf. Essentially he was pushed but didn't fall immediately and then fell trying to make a cut.

It is pretty clear that the whistle blew.


So I guess my question is: How long does a contact last? If a player gets touched by a defender and trips over his own feet 20 yards down field without being touched again, is he down?

Re: David Patten
 

I think they have to make a "football move", so if he was tripped, stumbled a couple of steps and fell, that would be down by contact, if he regained footing and made a cut (AKA Football Move) then fell, he's still live.

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Actually, I started laughing when he tripped over his own feet. If we weren't ahead in the game it might not have been so funny to me. Patton has been a find for us this year. Even on some of the fantasy football shows yesterday, they were saying to pick him up and play him cause he was going to have one of those days. I didn't:confused:. I'm happy for him and hope he continues to do well.

P.S. I haven't yet gone back and looked at that play again but I will. Must have been a whistle,is my guess too.

Re: David Patten
 

I thought maybe there was a whistle too, if there was it was quick, because as soon as he hit the ground he popped up and spiked the ball. I think that Patten THOUGHT he was tripped up by a Jags player, or else he would have gotten up and continued whistle or no whistle.

Re: David Patten
 

I agree. It's good to see us have the weapons on the field to put defenses on their heals. When we block, throw, and catch the ball properly, we are very hard to stop. Moore may need to work on his TD dance, however! The only downside of the 3WR set is it makes it harder for Kearney to get in the game.

Speaking of dumb mistakes however, this whole game could have been much closer had we not got some breaks. The Patten play speaks out, but Bush's muffed punt was luckily recovered. The game was very close at that point and would have been a big momentum swing had the Jags recovered. Also, for Brees to have the fumble (almost 2) and for it not to cost us was lucky. We also had challenges go our way (that doesn't happen often!). Throw in some bad punt coverage and another big pass play for a TD against us, then there are reasons to be thanking our lucky stars for the victory.

The Saints earned this victory and I am happy as can be to see them back in contention. They've come very far in the last month and have every reason to be proud of what they've done. They just have to make sure they earn the next few victories like they did this one!

Re: David Patten
 

very heads up play by kaesviharn recovering the muffed punt

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I wish that Henderson would get his act together being he could be a deep threat for the Saints.
Hoping he turns his season around, dame shame he can't catch because the guy has great speed.
Colston, Patton, Moore, Johnson and Miller isn't a bad set of weapons for Brees.
How about the big guy (Billy Miller) running down the field after a short catch?

Re: David Patten
 

I know it may be a little early for this, but the Saints should immediately try to work on extending Patten's contract. I believe he is only signed for this year, he deserves to get a 1 or 2 year extension. He is 33 but should have a couple more productive years ahead of him.

As for that Patten play, he is a crafty veteran so I would assume he heard a whistle.

Re: David Patten
 

I was watching in a bar with no sound (OK there was sound - the sound of the redskins squeaking by the jets)
I was impressed by patten and continue to think he is the vet leader that guides our WR corp
I am thankful to have him