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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; ...in draft picks! LOL, We are sitting 8th but a win will more than likely drop us out of it depending what the other teams do. I am so on the fence on what we should do with a top ...

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Old 11-19-2007, 06:10 PM   #1
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...in draft picks! LOL, We are sitting 8th but a win will more than likely drop us out of it depending what the other teams do.

I am so on the fence on what we should do with a top teir pick if we end up with one. My train of thought has been to trade a top pick away and get several but we blown so many so far what will it matter right. But if we grab lots of picks, someone is bound to work out???

We so badly need top teir players that its going to be hard press not using the pick to snag someone.

Is Bill Cowher ready to come back already?

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Old 11-19-2007, 07:25 PM   #2
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It appears it doesnt matter where we pick, we obiviously cant evaluate talent and know what are needs are. If we have another off season like the last one we are in real trouble. Who was more respondsible for the off season screw-up, Payton or Loomis?
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:35 PM   #3
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last year he was the god of the draft now he is bum. If repeats the 2006 draft he will be a god again. we got lucky in 2006 and unlucky in 2007, so far. I stress so far. A bit wishie washie don't you think.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:37 AM   #4
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Payton is a offensive coach. Hopefully in the next draft he remembers defense wins games. You can only go so long with an explosive offense. Sooner or later you have to rely on your defense to win the game. We need a defensive makeover. bottom line. keep the d-line maybe add some depth, keep fujita, keep mekenzie and harper, the rest need to go or ride the pine.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:36 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by KingCutta View Post
...You can only go so long with an explosive offense....
To whose offense are you refering? I guess you could call us explosive, if you mean that sometimes we explode onto the scoreboard and sometimes we explode all over ourselves.

Our offense is like one of those ultra high-powered cars. Oh sure, she's fast - but she's broken down as often as she's running.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:00 PM   #6
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I still think the 07 draft is not a total waste yet. Next year will be the telling story, or at least reveal some of the true potential. Still scratching my head over Antonio Pittman...

This is not a bad year to kind of bottom out. A top 10 pick could really help the Saints, not to mention picking top 10 in every round. Let's face it, the Saints were predicted by many to go to the Super Bowl. It's not going to happen. Even it the Saints do pull off a miracle and make it to the Super Bowl this year, does anyone in their right mind think the Saints could put up a competitive game against the likes of New England? Now I know it's always a great honor to go to the Super Bowl. It's not a great honor to get your ass kicked 60-3 in the Super Bowl. Let Dallas, Green Bay, or someone else have that for this year. They can have that blow out loss. The Saints can comeback in 08 if they do things the right way. They will need to draft smartly, and play the free agent market more aggressively. There is still a lot of talent left on the Saints team, just a few more pieces are needed.
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I'm hoping we trade up for Dorsey...
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All of the above posts make good points, but have failed to mention who is really at the core of what Payton and Loomis are able to work out, and thats Benson. There is no way a coach/GM would settle for less than exactly what they need unless they have been hand cuffed, booked, and finger printed. It certainly hasn't been, and definitely is not salary cap! Mueller couldn't take it, and got out - no big press release, just grabbed his stuff one day and left the building. I can just imagine what the Benson/Mueller conversation was like that lead to his decision to leave: two different views of what it takes to build a winning tradition. Payton may know what he wants but then Loomis has to crunch the numbers based on Benson's thrift budgetary restraints - quality vs quantity. Let's see, do we want 1 Mercedes or a Ford, 3 Kia's, and a Hyundai?

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Benson owns a Mercedes dealership in NO and doesn't give discounts to players or coaches...unless it is offered by Mercedes Benz!
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All of the above posts make good points, but have failed to mention who is really at the core of what Payton and Loomis are able to work out, and thats Benson. There is no way a coach/GM would settle for less than exactly what they need unless they have been hand cuffed, booked, and finger printed. It certainly hasn't been, and definitely is not salary cap! Mueller couldn't take it, and got out - no big press release, just grabbed his stuff one day and left the building. I can just imagine what the Benson/Mueller conversation was like that lead to his decision to leave: two different views of what it takes to build a winning tradition. Payton may know what he wants but then Loomis has to crunch the numbers based on Benson's thrift budgetary restraints - quality vs quantity. Let's see, do we want 1 Mercedes or a Ford, 3 Kia's, and a Hyundai?
Benson bashers YEAH! Benson saved the Saints from moving from New Orleans. You have to look at what you got 'a business man'. You can't fault him for his business decisions, I mean he makes money and keeps the Saints in New Orleans that is a win win. I don't care much for the way he runs the team but you have to respect what he's done. The Saints were NOTHING before Benson bought them... NOTHING. They didn't win crap before him. Unfortuneately I don't think he'll ever win a Super Bowl with his management style.

If you go back to last offseason you'd see some supposedly good players being signed to big contracts... ya know what Deuce is making??? Let me tell ya if it was all about saving money Deuce wouldn't be a Saint today.

Hell why do you think the Saints drafted Reggie??? uhm to sale merchandise not to win football games. Drafting Reggie wasn't a football decision it was a business decision. There were a few football players we should have drafted instead of Reggie.

I am not a Benson fan but I know what side my bread is buttered on. I like the Saints in New Orleans and appreciate what he has been able to do to keep the Saints in New Orleans.

So unless you don't want the Saints anymore in New Orleans stop bashing Benson. I mean hell let him sale the team and move them out here to Los Angeles, we might make the a Super Bowl winner finally.

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